An anecdote that might be applicable:
Look at version controls over the last few decades:
CVS —> Apache Subersion —> Git
Each transition was a major improvement.
That may lead you believe that Subversion is dead and long gone. And you would
be wrong.
Subversion is still alive because it stil has a user base, Talso has one of,
if not the most, open-door policies to entry: Want committer access? Just ask
and you’re in. If you eff up, someone will catch it and revert it.
We’ve had a few express interest in continuing the project. Why not elevate
them to Committer/PMC?
-Taylor
> On Feb 2, 2023, at 12:06 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> IMO, there are tow scenarios:
>
> 1. Storm is in dead. No one uses it anymore, and no one needs security
> patches, etc.
> 2. Storm is in maintenance mode. While new features may not be added, there
> are enough contributors left tp at least address any security concerns.
>
> Wether we pursue the attic o projectr continuation is really up to the
> community. Anyone who want to step up and help continue the project should be
> considered a PMC candidate.
>
> As I’ve said in other threads, I’m willing to act as PMC chair whatever the
> PMC decides.
>
> But for now we have ne official liaison to ther ASF board. PMC members need
> to elect a chair, whether we choose to continue or head to the attic.
>
> I would lean toward lowering the bar for PMC membership to anyone interested
> in ongoing maintenance.
>
> I’m still willing to serve as the board liaison (PMC Chair) in either case of
> retirement or continuation. I’d also support anyone else willing to take the
> position. The position needs to be filled either way.
>
> This is a decision that affects both developers and users. Thank you Aaron
> for bringing it to the attention of the broader community.
>
> -Taylor
>
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 9:26 PM, sunil yadav <raosutn...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:raosutn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> One side note looking to see what folks are migrating or moved to if not
>> using Storm actively. Any cloud native DAG platform to recommend?
>>
>> -Sunil
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 6:12 PM Stephen Powis via user <u...@storm.apache.org
>> <mailto:u...@storm.apache.org>> wrote:
>> Ah Yea, also not opposed to the move to the attic if it's determined to be
>> most appropriate, but I had a similar experience as Richard where I
>> submitted some PRs, asked for comments/thoughts/review, and even offered to
>> take over ownership of one of the sub modules and got no responses. Perhaps
>> I just submitted under the wrong forum to get an answer, but definitely a
>> bummer, and would love to see the project/community get revived.
>>
>> - Stephen
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 10:09 PM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org
>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> I am CC the users@ list as they weren't contained in the initial
>> proposal. Perhaps, there are people or institutions in the wild, who
>> want to volunteer or give it a try (still at the ASF level).
>>
>> Of course it shouldn't prevent a VOTE for moving to the attic, but an
>> additional try to get some more attention (if needed).
>>
>> Gruß
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Am Dienstag, dem 31.01.2023 um 08:00 -0600 schrieb Aaron Niskode-
>> Dossett:
>> > Thank you to those who responded. Given that the low number of
>> > responses I
>> > am going to start a vote on moving to the attic tomorrow.
>> >
>> > One other note: A vote to move to the attic would not mean the end of
>> > Storm, the project can be forked by anyone who wants to continue the
>> > work
>> > (just as it can be forked today), it would just be outside of the
>> > ASF.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:12 AM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org
>> > <mailto:r...@apache.org>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > I also experienced, that dev@ activity is quite low. I did provide
>> > > some
>> > > PRs and asked questions a few months ago and didn't get any
>> > > feedback,
>> > > although the PRs got merged in the end. I think, that we need some
>> > > sort
>> > > of community rebuilding / revival, if we want to maintain Storm in
>> > > a
>> > > sustainable way (like it is done for TomEE or OpenNLP).
>> > >
>> > > Nevertheless, as I am also a committer on StormCrawler, which
>> > > relies on
>> > > Storm (obviously) _and_ is used in our research work, I am also
>> > > happy
>> > > to jump in as a volunteer, if some ppl are needed.
>> > >
>> > > Gruß
>> > > Richard
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Am Mittwoch, dem 25.01.2023 um 22:00 +0000 schrieb Bipin Prasad:
>> > > > I am volunteering to take on the role of PMC chairFor Storm. Not
>> > > > quite sure about the process.
>> > > > Thanks—Bipin Prasad
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 4:50 PM, Aaron Niskode-Dossett <
>> > > > doss...@gmail.com <mailto:doss...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hello Storm developer community,
>> > > >
>> > > > In the past year or so this project has slowed down and the
>> > > > Project
>> > > > Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active members. The PMC
>> > > > chair
>> > > > resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since volunteered
>> > > > to
>> > > > assume
>> > > > those duties. I myself am an inactive PMC member.
>> > > >
>> > > > This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving this
>> > > > project to
>> > > > the
>> > > > Attic [1]. I would view this as the natural culmination of a
>> > > > very
>> > > > successful Apache project and not as a mark of failure. There
>> > > > are
>> > > > many,
>> > > > many successful and influential projects in the attic.
>> > > >
>> > > > The alternative to moving to the attic would be to reconstitute
>> > > > the
>> > > > PMC
>> > > > with *new members* of the development community willing to take
>> > > > on
>> > > > the
>> > > > responsibilities of the project and reporting to the Apache
>> > > > Software
>> > > > Foundation board.
>> > > >
>> > > > So, please respond to this thread if you are interested in that
>> > > > role.
>> > > > Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic is
>> > > > appropriate. A
>> > > > vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in the
>> > > > future.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks you for your time,
>> > > > Aaron
>> > > >
>> > > > [1]
>> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://attic.apache.org/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!FDOUbKYpvz6tgLpyOZoJcYfuR1asy2k3NEI5NZVLzpP4SjhO8CmSTJ1eT37qrLCn1LaATZs3gwa_5Q$
>> > > >
>> > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://attic.apache.org/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!FDOUbKYpvz6tgLpyOZoJcYfuR1asy2k3NEI5NZVLzpP4SjhO8CmSTJ1eT37qrLCn1LaATZs3gwa_5Q$>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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