Hi all,

I am also +1 for Taylor as PMC and please count me in as well (my first
comment was a bit vague about it).

Looks like, that the discussion is going well. We know see a lot of
involvement ;-) (didn't see that for years on this list!).

Gruß
Richard


Am Freitag, dem 03.02.2023 um 13:20 +0000 schrieb Julien Nioche:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'd be happy to get involved. I haven't delved deep into Storm's code
> but have been using it for years and my project StormCrawler relies
> heavily on it. I have been a committer on several Apache projects but
> not been active in any of them for a while.
> I know that there are loads of StormCrawler users and of course that
> also makes them Storm users. Even though a number of people might
> have moved to other platforms, I don't believe Storm is dead and
> maintenance mode is probably an accurate description. So if you are
> willing to lower the bar, please count me in and am definitely +1 for
> Taylor as a PMC chair.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Julien 
> 
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 at 05:07, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > IMO, there are tow scenarios:
> > 
> > 1. Storm is in dead. No one uses it anymore, and no one needs
> > security patches, etc.
> > 2. Storm is in maintenance mode. While new features may not be
> > added, there are enough contributors left tp at least address any
> > security concerns.
> > 
> > Wether we pursue the attic o projectr continuation is really up to
> > the community. Anyone who want to step up and help continue the
> > project should be considered a PMC candidate.
> > 
> > As I’ve said in other threads, I’m willing to act as PMC chair
> > whatever the PMC decides.
> > 
> > But for now we have ne official liaison to ther ASF board. PMC
> > members need to elect a chair, whether we choose to continue or
> > head to the attic.
> > 
> > I would lean toward lowering the bar for PMC membership to anyone
> > interested in ongoing maintenance. 
> > 
> > I’m still willing to serve as the board liaison (PMC Chair) in
> > either case of retirement or continuation. I’d also support anyone
> > else willing to take the position.  The position needs to be filled
> > either way.
> > 
> > This is a decision that affects both developers and users. Thank
> > you Aaron for bringing it to the attention of the  broader
> > community.
> > 
> > -Taylor
> > 
> > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 9:26 PM, sunil yadav <raosutn...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > One side note looking to see what folks are migrating or moved to
> > > if not using Storm actively. Any cloud native DAG platform to
> > > recommend?
> > > 
> > > -Sunil
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 6:12 PM Stephen Powis via user <
> > > u...@storm.apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Ah Yea, also not opposed to the move to the attic if it's
> > > > determined to be most appropriate, but I had a similar
> > > > experience as Richard where I submitted some PRs, asked for
> > > > comments/thoughts/review, and even offered to take over
> > > > ownership of one of the sub modules and got no responses. 
> > > > Perhaps I just submitted under the wrong forum to get an
> > > > answer, but definitely a bummer, and would love to see the
> > > > project/community get revived.
> > > > 
> > > > - Stephen
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 10:09 PM Richard Zowalla <
> > > > r...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Aaron,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am CC the users@ list as they weren't contained in the
> > > > > initial
> > > > > proposal. Perhaps, there are people or institutions in the
> > > > > wild, who
> > > > > want to volunteer or give it a try (still at the ASF level). 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course it shouldn't prevent a VOTE for moving to the
> > > > > attic, but an
> > > > > additional try to get some more attention (if needed).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Gruß
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Am Dienstag, dem 31.01.2023 um 08:00 -0600 schrieb Aaron
> > > > > Niskode-
> > > > > Dossett:
> > > > > > Thank you to those who responded. Given that the low number
> > > > > of
> > > > > > responses I
> > > > > > am going to start a vote on moving to the attic tomorrow.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > One other note: A vote to move to the attic would not mean
> > > > > the end of
> > > > > > Storm, the project can be forked by anyone who wants to
> > > > > continue the
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > (just as it can be forked today), it would just be outside
> > > > > of the
> > > > > > ASF.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:12 AM Richard Zowalla <
> > > > > r...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I also experienced, that dev@ activity is quite low. I
> > > > > did provide
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > PRs and asked questions a few months ago and didn't get
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > feedback,
> > > > > > > although the PRs got merged in the end. I think, that we
> > > > > need some
> > > > > > > sort
> > > > > > > of community rebuilding / revival, if we want to maintain
> > > > > Storm in
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > sustainable way (like it is done for TomEE or OpenNLP).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nevertheless, as I am also a committer on StormCrawler,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > relies on
> > > > > > > Storm (obviously) _and_ is used in our research work, I
> > > > > am also
> > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > to jump in as a volunteer, if some ppl are needed.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Gruß
> > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 25.01.2023 um 22:00 +0000 schrieb Bipin
> > > > > Prasad:
> > > > > > > > I am volunteering to take on the role of PMC chairFor
> > > > > Storm. Not
> > > > > > > > quite sure about the process.
> > > > > > > > Thanks—Bipin Prasad
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 4:50 PM, Aaron Niskode-
> > > > > Dossett <
> > > > > > > > doss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hello Storm developer community,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In the past year or so this project has slowed down and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Project
> > > > > > > > Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active
> > > > > members.  The PMC
> > > > > > > > chair
> > > > > > > > resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since
> > > > > volunteered
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > assume
> > > > > > > > those duties.  I myself am an inactive PMC member.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > project to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Attic [1].  I would view this as the natural
> > > > > culmination of a
> > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > successful Apache project and not as a mark of
> > > > > failure.  There
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > many,
> > > > > > > > many successful and influential projects in the attic.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The alternative to moving to the attic would be to
> > > > > reconstitute
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > PMC
> > > > > > > > with *new members* of the development community willing
> > > > > to take
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > responsibilities of the project and reporting to the
> > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > Foundation board.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So, please respond to this thread if you are interested
> > > > > in that
> > > > > > > > role.
> > > > > > > > Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > appropriate.  A
> > > > > > > > vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > future.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks you for your time,
> > > > > > > > Aaron
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [1] 
> > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://attic.apache.org/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!FDOUbKYpvz6tgLpyOZoJcYfuR1asy2k3NEI5NZVLzpP4SjhO8CmSTJ1eT37qrLCn1LaATZs3gwa_5Q$
> > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> 
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