I conclude once again that there is little chance of getting a serious discussion on the Struts list of how to intelligently change things so that applications (which Ted rightly points out are the real focus of all this work) can be submitted to Struts. If the very point of Struts is shunted off to another place, i.e. SF, then I would have to say that we seem to be stuck with the old not-so-intelligent approach.
///;-) Jack On Apr 7, 2005 10:44 AM, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the bottom-line here is that I am in fact a developer member of > struts.sf.net, although I have yet to contribute anything to it. If I > want to persue this, that is one of the avenues available to me (although > I don't know the procedure yet). I don't know at this point if I'm going > to do that, go somewhere else, or simply say to hell with it. I was > hoping for a different answer, but I didn't get it, but that's OK, that > was the whole point of bringing it up. > > -- > Frank W. Zammetti > Founder and Chief Software Architect > Omnytex Technologies > http://www.omnytex.com > > On Thu, April 7, 2005 1:28 pm, Ted Husted said: > > On Apr 7, 2005 1:12 PM, Fogleson, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Jack, > >> > >> Actually my comments were in no way an answer to his proposal. I believe > >> that under the rules of Apache we have already gotten our answer to > >> whether it will be included as a subproject of struts. To be included > >> there must be no vetoing vote by a member of the PMC. (pardon me Martin > >> if I misquote you or I misinterpreted your intent) Martin Cooper is a > >> member of the PMC and basically gave a -1 vote on including it as a > >> subproject. > > > > Just as point of order, vetos only apply to product changes. Adopting > > a subproject is a 3/4 majority vote. > > > > http://struts.apache.org/bylaws.html > > > > And, there is not enough here to even think about voting on subproject > > status. We don't vote on good intentions. A product would have to be > > very nearly complete, and have already attracted a following, before > > we'd want to consider a subproject vote. > > > > This is an informal discussion. Frank just wanted to run it up the flag > > pole. > > > > -Ted. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]