Quick correction: Struts is _not_ forking in any sense of the word. 
Struts Ti is a sandbox project several of us are working on as an
exploration of a simplified framework more like Ruby on Rails than
JSF.  It has not been accepted as a Struts subproject, just as Shale
has not been accepted as "Struts 2.0".

The Struts project is currently in, what I would call, a state of
exploration.  In addition to Shale and Ti, there are other projects
like Struts Overdrive, Struts Flow, etc., which are also exploring
different aspects of web development.  Of course, there will be Struts
classic still for a long time to come which will continue to forego
active development.

I think Struts is realizing there is no "one way" when it comes to web
development.  If a particular project or approach interests you, join
in.  Personally, I think shale will be a great success building on the
strong JSF framework, and if it meets your needs, give it a shot. 
Just as not every web application is the same, neither is their needs
for a framework.

Don

On 8/10/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MyFaces Discussion" <users@myfaces.apache.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: JSF vs. Struts
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> currently the are *forking* :)
> 
> Struts Ti
> 
> see here:
> http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/dev@struts.apache.org/1854691.html
> 
> and Shale (aka Struts 2.0) is build on top of JSF.
> 
> It is a framework for JSF ...
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/10/05, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doing both, I only can recommend, if you can omit struts and go
> > directly for MyFaces (not the JSF RI, it lacks severely)
> >
> > Struts feels somewhat dated in many areas compared to JSF.
> >
> > Werner
> >
> >
> >
> > Aleksei Valikov wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Could anyone post a good link on Struts vs. JSF comparison? I have a
> > > meeting in 40 minutes where I need to push through my decision on using
> > > JSF for a large project (GIS/Map Viewers). Seems like I can argument my
> > > decision, but some additional support material would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Bye.
> > > /lexi
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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