Martin-

there is also an issue with the Maven build for Tiles standalone.
the dtds are not inside the jar file, *after* maven build

see here:
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=36096

-Matthias

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> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:44 AM
> To: Struts Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Standalone Tiles - JSP version & tld file
> 
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> On 8/24/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/24/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Sorry if I'm piping up late on this.
> > >
> > > What's the plans for Tiles?  Will we support embedded 
> tiles or will
> > > we simply adapt standalone to work as we do for the commons stuff?
> > >
> > 
> > That's definitely a call for the developers invested in 
> 1.3.x, but it
> > certainly makes the most sense to have one and only one 
> implementation
> > around, and just do bindings to it.  Such bindings should 
> be very easy
> > in this case.
> 
> My preference would definitely be to support only one version, with
> that version being the one we expect to support in future releases.
> So, +1 for supporting Standalone Tiles only.
> 
> > However, I've got a separate / semi-related question.  Given that
> > we're changing package names anyway, it would be really cool to
> > abstract away the servlet API specific calling sequences, so that
> > standalone Tiles could work equally comfortably in a portlet
> > environment (without needing any portlet->servlet bridgework).  The
> > only API a typical Tiles user will be using is Controller, so this
> > shouldn't be a huge deal.  What do you think?
> 
> I'd say go for it. I would be *very* surprised if any more than a tiny
> minority of Tiles users have any dependency on the Tiles API at all.
> In my experience, the vast majority of Tiles users know little more
> than they need to know to define their tiles in the tiles-defs.xml
> file.
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> > If we're ever going to do this to standalone Tiles, pre-1.0 
> would seem
> > like the right time.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > >
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> > > On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 8/24/05, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 8/24/05, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (on struts-user)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> test.jsp has this:
> > > >>>> <%@ taglib uri="http://jakarta.apache.org/tiles"; 
> prefix="tiles" %>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jakarta?  That can't be right... there's a problem:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The tld in last night's tiles-core.jar has a JSP 1.1 tld with
> > > >>> that uri,
> > > >>> which is coming from src/conf.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I noticed that tld the other day when I was changing the Maven
> > > >>> build files.
> > > >>> The doc/userGuide/tiles-core.xml file does have the 
> right uri.  I
> > > >>> think the
> > > >>> one in src/conf needs to be deleted-- the tld is 
> probably still
> > > >>> supposed to
> > > >>> be generated from the files under doc/userGuide and doc/
> > > >>> stylesheets as part
> > > >>> of the build.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Eventually I'll generate a complete tld with all the
> > > >>> documentation, so that
> > > >>> Maven can create the taglibdoc and tag reference 
> pages... the one in
> > > >>> src/conf doesn't have any of that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And what JSP version is Standalone Tiles using?  The 
> build files
> > > >>> declare a
> > > >>> dependency on Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0.  I thought the 
> intent was
> > > >>> for Struts
> > > >>> Classic (which is now at Servlet 2.3) to move to Standalone
> > > >>> Tiles.  Is that
> > > >>> going to be possible with the mismatch in dependencies?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> I believe the intent was that Standalone Tiles should rely on
> > > >> Servlets
> > > >> 2.3 and JSP 1.2, as does Struts Classic. I hope that's 
> still the
> > > >> case,
> > > >> and that we just need to fix up Tiles to conform to that.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that was definitely the intent for Standalone 
> Tiles.  It probably
> > > > got mixed up during the multiple iterations of 
> cut-n-paste from the
> > > > Struts-embedded sources, plus cut-n-paste changes to the build
> > > > environment, plus ...
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> --
> > > >> Martin Cooper
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Wendy
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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