Paul Benedict wrote:
Johnathan,
I don't see the necessity of a problem from within your viewpoint.
Struts 2.0 is going to be built from WebWork; I suppose you can
consider Struts 2.0 a fork of WebWork,
Well, it's not _really_ a fork. The main Webwork developers are coming
over here.
But in any case, I'm not at all arguing about the legalities of what can
be done with forked code or not.
Really, my objections are not in the realm of what is legal, as I'm sure
ASF has that covered. My objections are more in the realm of what is
good taste.
My sense of things is that systematically excising the strings "webwork"
and "ww" from everywhere as if they were curse words is in very
questionable taste.
But I recognize that it could be a matter of "Each to their own taste".
Also, I have made no bones about the fact that I consider this whole
"merger" to be in very questionable taste anyway, and other people
obviously don't share that feeling, so you know...
because, unless I am unaware
of something here, this doesn't prevent other people from developing
WebWork if they want to continue it.
It is going to become a different
product and probably contain new things WW may not want to do on its
own. So, I understand your perspective, but I don't think there is
anything wrong with the way things are being handled. And as Ted
pointed out, WW folks are on board with this. -- Paul
Well, yeah, of course they can do what they want. It's not my code in
this instance, so you have no particular need to pay much heed to me.
OTOH, I consider it likely that other people might feel that same unease
and not be expressing it...
Jonathan Revusky
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lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
FreeMarker group blog, http://freemarker.blogspot.com/
--- Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Paul Benedict wrote:
cry that they are so innocent and all (such wonderful
people) but surely there is some agenda in wanting to excise "webwork"
and "ww" from all the code, isn't there?
Isn't the purpose of this to excise the webwork name?
Well, at the marketing level, maybe. That this necessarily translates to
excising the string "webwork" from all the package names is less
obvious. As an outside observer, I see no need to systematically remove
the string "webwork" from everywhere as if it were a curse word.
Also, my understanding was that Struts is now an "umbrella" and that the
gain was from being under that umbrella. I don't see how this requires
the string "webwork" or "ww" to be excised from everywhere, down to the
nth level of package names -- in particular, once the package names
start with org.apache.struts.
It would more imply excising the string "opensymphony" from everywhere
-- which is a step that I find completely understandable, since
opensymphony is an umbrella and webwork is moving from that umbrella
over to this one.
I thought
it was. Why else would you want to become "Struts 2.0" if not
for the name?
Well, there is no "Struts 2.0" really. At least that's my understanding
of the official line now. Struts is an umbrella. You have Struts Action
and Struts Shale.
I don't see this renaming as a slam against the heritage,
but this entire process doesn't make any sense unless you're specficially
wanting to be rebranded as Struts.
Well, my guess is that the motivation of the Webwork people for this was
to *gain* the Apache/Struts name, not particularly to *lose* the Webwork
name. If Apache/Struts is now an umbrella, that implies replacing the
string "OpenSymphony" rather than the "Webwork" string.
Jonathan Revusky
--
lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
FreeMarker group blog, http://freemarker.blogspot.com/
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