What is stupid or assinine is to suggest that the problem is that I cannot count. That is typical of you snipers. You do everything to avoid the real issues. Look at the entries for Reddin and look at the entries for other people. In my opinion you have to be addled not to see that he is brought on for Shale and not for Struts.
On 4/25/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/25/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is the kind of stupid, assinine comment > > > What is stupid or assinine about pointing out that your count is > incorrect? > It *is* incorrect. You counted 4 posts to the dev list. To quote you > directly: > > "I count four (4) posts to the dev list in Greg Reddin's history" > > I provided a URL which demonstrates that that statement is incorrect. > > -- > Martin Cooper > > > that is really what trolling is > > all about. There are clearly more than I found by doing a general search > > for > > Redding. Try doing one for Frank and see what happens, Martin. I > really > > could vomit when I hear that feminine English "pity". > > > > On 4/25/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 4/25/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here is a case in point: I count four (4) posts to the dev list in > > Greg > > > > Reddin's history. > > > > > > > > > Pity you can't count. > > > > > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?w=2&r=1&s=greg.reddin&q=a > > > > > > -- > > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > > > > He is a committer. On the user list there is also > > > > virtually nothing. What stands out is that he was interested in a > > > couple > > > > of > > > > posts in Shale. What is the possible reason he is a committer and > > Frank > > > > is > > > > not? Is this the Way Different Struts-Apache Way. This is > crazy! Do > > > > people actually believe Ted and Craig? > > > > > > > > On 4/25/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That depends entirely on your meaning of the word "closed". You > > > > > > make the > > > > > > argument that the number of new committers means it isn't > closed, > > > > > > and I > > > > > > agree with you to a degree. But that's not the only meaning of > > > > > > "closed"... the invitations to those people came *soley* from > the > > > PMC > > > > > > AFAIK... the community had no say in it. That's the thing my > > > proposal > > > > > > seeks to address, that the initiation of someone being invited > > > doesn't > > > > > > necessarily have to come from those already there (although they > > > would > > > > > > still have the final say-so). > > > > > > > > > > I have some serious concerns about this. Let me just use myself > as > > > > > an example. I've been a committer for about 6 months or so. I > have > > > > > absolutely no idea what sort of discussion took place before I > > > > > received that invitation. If there was someone among the PMC who > > was > > > > > vehemently opposed to my nomination I'm glad they had a > confidential > > > > > forum in which to discuss their concerns. Now that I am a > committer > > > > > I can have an unbiased conversation with anybody else in the group > > > > > without any preconceived notion of what that individual's opinion > of > > > > > me might be. Truly, I don't have confidence that either user@ or > > > > > dev@ is a place where concerns can be expressed openly without > fear > > > > > of unprofessional response. It's just too easy for this kind of > > > > > discussion to turn into personal attacks in a forum such as user@ > or > > > > > even [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > When Struts was a Jakarta subproject I remember committer votes > > > > > taking place on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I always felt just a little uneasy > > > > > about > it. > > > > > 99 times out of 100 it was a unanimous +1 with no discussion. But > I > > > > > seem to recall at least one case when concerns were expressed > > (sorry, > > > > > I don't remember the specifics, please correct me if I'm > wrong). I > > > > > feel really bad that this person's personal merit would have to be > > > > > discussed in a public forum. I understand some others' concerns > > > > > about the community appearing to be closed, but I think there > should > > > > > be a barrier to entry. Maybe it's too high, but it seems to me > that > > > > > it should exist. After all it's basically a lifetime appointment > > and > > > > > revocations are very rare if one has ever happened at all. > > > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > > > back." > > > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > back." > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~
