What I really wish is that there was some external project doing this(which
is supposed to be a fairly common task) so we wouldn't have to maintain it,
but if we are going to keep it, I'd rather have it as part of the
distribution.

musachy

On 3/12/07, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'd prefer that it be part of the distribution.  Having it separate
just seems to add complexity to the build and I'm sure to the release
process.

Just my 2 cents.


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On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Ted Husted wrote:

> Under the Apache License, anyone who wanted to do that would be free
> to do so. It's just a matter of changing the product name, and
> following the other provisions of the license.
>
> But, that doesn't solve the problem, it just changes the venue. If
> there's anyone who is ready, willing, and able to run Annotations as a
> GoogleCode project, AFAIC, they would also be welcome to help maintain
> Annotations as a Struts subproject. It's not about venue, it's about
> volunteers.
>
> The problem is that no one is doing the work of making Annotations
> reusable. It is not documented as a separate entity, no one is
> releasing it, or announcing it, or otherwise promoting it. Some of our
> own committers don't even know it exists.
>
> If someone wants to be the Struts Annotations release manager, now is
> the time to step up. Otherwise, we should declare it an orphan and
> make the JAR part of the general distribution.
>
> -Ted.
>
> On 3/12/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> After the changes I just added, I don't think annotations will
>> change much
>> from now on, if any. We could set it up somewhere else
>> (googlecode?) and
>> avoid both the subproject and the multiple release problems.
>>
>> musachy
>>
>> On 3/12/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 3/11/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Annotations was originally setup as a separate JAR with an
>> independent
>> > > version so as to encourage reuse. However, until other product
>> > > indicate an interest in using Annotaitons and participating in
>> its
>> > > development, managing a separate release process provides no
>> tangible
>> > > benefit.
>> >
>> >
>> > It provides the tangible benefit of actually allowing for reuse...
>> >
>> > Therefore, it's proposed that annotations become a part of
>> > > the general Struts 2 distribution, along with the various
>> plugins, but
>> > > remain in its own JAR, so as to encourage reuse. If an
>> independent
>> > > community forms around Annotations, we can revisit the issue
>> of making
>> > > it a subproject with its own release cycle.
>> >
>> >
>> > An independent community is simply not going to form around
>> something
>> > that's
>> > buried inside of Struts. We've already seen that in the past. I
>> know this
>> > is
>> > a bit of a Catch 22 situation, but unless we actually allow for
>> reuse in
>> > the
>> > first place, as we do today, there is very little chance that it
>> will ever
>> > be reused. Therefore I would prefer to see the annotations stay
>> separate.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Martin Cooper
>> >
>> >
>> > Archetype was original setup as a separate entity, but it might be
>> > > simpler to reduce the number of independent artifacts being
>> released
>> > > by the project. The S2 Release Manager will have to update the
>> version
>> > > number in the templates, but that seems like less work that
>> > > coordinating tandem releases, that might end up being handled
>> by the
>> > > same volunteer anyway.
>> > >
>> > > Again, this is as to the trunk. For now, we can let the 2.0
>> branch
>> > > stay as it is.
>> > >
>> > > Further thoughts?
>> > >
>> > > -Ted.
>> > >
>> > >
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