Yeah, while I know there are good reasons to keep annotations and the archetypes outside the struts 2 codebase, from a pragmatic standpoint, I'd also like to bring them back in. Sure, the annotations could be useful for other projects, but until anyone signs up to do to the work, I just don't see it getting anywhere. As for the archetypes, every time I question this, Wendy has a list of good reasons we need to keep them outside Struts, but still, Maven 2 issues aside, I think they would be better served in Struts 2, tagged and released with everything else.
However, things aren't _that_ bad the way they are, so consider my vote a +0 :) Don On 3/12/07, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd prefer that it be part of the distribution. Having it separate just seems to add complexity to the build and I'm sure to the release process. Just my 2 cents. -- James Mitchell On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Ted Husted wrote: > Under the Apache License, anyone who wanted to do that would be free > to do so. It's just a matter of changing the product name, and > following the other provisions of the license. > > But, that doesn't solve the problem, it just changes the venue. If > there's anyone who is ready, willing, and able to run Annotations as a > GoogleCode project, AFAIC, they would also be welcome to help maintain > Annotations as a Struts subproject. It's not about venue, it's about > volunteers. > > The problem is that no one is doing the work of making Annotations > reusable. It is not documented as a separate entity, no one is > releasing it, or announcing it, or otherwise promoting it. Some of our > own committers don't even know it exists. > > If someone wants to be the Struts Annotations release manager, now is > the time to step up. Otherwise, we should declare it an orphan and > make the JAR part of the general distribution. > > -Ted. > > On 3/12/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After the changes I just added, I don't think annotations will >> change much >> from now on, if any. We could set it up somewhere else >> (googlecode?) and >> avoid both the subproject and the multiple release problems. >> >> musachy >> >> On 3/12/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > On 3/11/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > Annotations was originally setup as a separate JAR with an >> independent >> > > version so as to encourage reuse. However, until other product >> > > indicate an interest in using Annotaitons and participating in >> its >> > > development, managing a separate release process provides no >> tangible >> > > benefit. >> > >> > >> > It provides the tangible benefit of actually allowing for reuse... >> > >> > Therefore, it's proposed that annotations become a part of >> > > the general Struts 2 distribution, along with the various >> plugins, but >> > > remain in its own JAR, so as to encourage reuse. If an >> independent >> > > community forms around Annotations, we can revisit the issue >> of making >> > > it a subproject with its own release cycle. >> > >> > >> > An independent community is simply not going to form around >> something >> > that's >> > buried inside of Struts. We've already seen that in the past. I >> know this >> > is >> > a bit of a Catch 22 situation, but unless we actually allow for >> reuse in >> > the >> > first place, as we do today, there is very little chance that it >> will ever >> > be reused. Therefore I would prefer to see the annotations stay >> separate. >> > >> > -- >> > Martin Cooper >> > >> > >> > Archetype was original setup as a separate entity, but it might be >> > > simpler to reduce the number of independent artifacts being >> released >> > > by the project. The S2 Release Manager will have to update the >> version >> > > number in the templates, but that seems like less work that >> > > coordinating tandem releases, that might end up being handled >> by the >> > > same volunteer anyway. >> > > >> > > Again, this is as to the trunk. For now, we can let the 2.0 >> branch >> > > stay as it is. >> > > >> > > Further thoughts? >> > > >> > > -Ted. >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> "Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone?" Pink Floyd > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
