Well, it isn't really specific to Struts in anyway, and we wrote it because
there wasn't anything else to do the job (xdoclet needed to be patched If I
remember right). At the end is not big deal, it is just 4 classes anyway :)

musachy

On 3/12/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 3/12/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What I really wish is that there was some external project doing
> this(which
> is supposed to be a fairly common task) so we wouldn't have to maintain
> it,
> but if we are going to keep it, I'd rather have it as part of the
> distribution.


Why would you want to convert something that's part of, and a dependency
of,
an ASF project into something that's potentially outwith our control?

--
Martin Cooper


musachy
>
> On 3/12/07, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'd prefer that it be part of the distribution.  Having it separate
> > just seems to add complexity to the build and I'm sure to the release
> > process.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Mitchell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Ted Husted wrote:
> >
> > > Under the Apache License, anyone who wanted to do that would be free
> > > to do so. It's just a matter of changing the product name, and
> > > following the other provisions of the license.
> > >
> > > But, that doesn't solve the problem, it just changes the venue. If
> > > there's anyone who is ready, willing, and able to run Annotations as
a
> > > GoogleCode project, AFAIC, they would also be welcome to help
maintain
> > > Annotations as a Struts subproject. It's not about venue, it's about
> > > volunteers.
> > >
> > > The problem is that no one is doing the work of making Annotations
> > > reusable. It is not documented as a separate entity, no one is
> > > releasing it, or announcing it, or otherwise promoting it. Some of
our
> > > own committers don't even know it exists.
> > >
> > > If someone wants to be the Struts Annotations release manager, now
is
> > > the time to step up. Otherwise, we should declare it an orphan and
> > > make the JAR part of the general distribution.
> > >
> > > -Ted.
> > >
> > > On 3/12/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> After the changes I just added, I don't think annotations will
> > >> change much
> > >> from now on, if any. We could set it up somewhere else
> > >> (googlecode?) and
> > >> avoid both the subproject and the multiple release problems.
> > >>
> > >> musachy
> > >>
> > >> On 3/12/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > On 3/11/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Annotations was originally setup as a separate JAR with an
> > >> independent
> > >> > > version so as to encourage reuse. However, until other product
> > >> > > indicate an interest in using Annotaitons and participating in
> > >> its
> > >> > > development, managing a separate release process provides no
> > >> tangible
> > >> > > benefit.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > It provides the tangible benefit of actually allowing for
reuse...
> > >> >
> > >> > Therefore, it's proposed that annotations become a part of
> > >> > > the general Struts 2 distribution, along with the various
> > >> plugins, but
> > >> > > remain in its own JAR, so as to encourage reuse. If an
> > >> independent
> > >> > > community forms around Annotations, we can revisit the issue
> > >> of making
> > >> > > it a subproject with its own release cycle.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > An independent community is simply not going to form around
> > >> something
> > >> > that's
> > >> > buried inside of Struts. We've already seen that in the past. I
> > >> know this
> > >> > is
> > >> > a bit of a Catch 22 situation, but unless we actually allow for
> > >> reuse in
> > >> > the
> > >> > first place, as we do today, there is very little chance that it
> > >> will ever
> > >> > be reused. Therefore I would prefer to see the annotations stay
> > >> separate.
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Martin Cooper
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Archetype was original setup as a separate entity, but it might
be
> > >> > > simpler to reduce the number of independent artifacts being
> > >> released
> > >> > > by the project. The S2 Release Manager will have to update the
> > >> version
> > >> > > number in the templates, but that seems like less work that
> > >> > > coordinating tandem releases, that might end up being handled
> > >> by the
> > >> > > same volunteer anyway.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Again, this is as to the trunk. For now, we can let the 2.0
> > >> branch
> > >> > > stay as it is.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Further thoughts?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Ted.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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