On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 06:27:54AM +0000, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Stefan Sperling wrote on Thu, 28 May 2020 08:07 +0200: > > +++ releasing.part.html (working copy) > > @@ -1300,6 +1300,20 @@ Ensure that your mailer doesn't wrap the URLs over > > <p>NOTE: We announce the release before updating the website since the > > website > > update links to the release announcement sent to the announce@ mailing > > list.</p> > > > > +<p>It is possible that your message to the ASF-wide annou...@apache.org > > will > > +be rejected. This generates a moderation notification with a Subject line > > +such as: <tt>Returned post for annou...@apache.org</tt>. > > Spell out that this is specifically about announce@a.o, as opposed to > announce@s.a.o? > > > +The originator of such moderation messages is anonymous if the moderator > > +neglects to sign the moderation message with their own name, which makes it > > +impossible to have an actual conversation with the moderator. > > Mention that a conversation can be had by emailing announce-owner@?
How about this? Index: releasing.part.html =================================================================== --- releasing.part.html (revision 1878172) +++ releasing.part.html (working copy) @@ -1300,6 +1300,23 @@ Ensure that your mailer doesn't wrap the URLs over <p>NOTE: We announce the release before updating the website since the website update links to the release announcement sent to the announce@ mailing list.</p> +<p>There are two announce@ mailing lists where the release announcement gets +posted: The Subversion project's announce@ list, and the ASF-wide announce@ +list. It is possible that your message to the ASF-wide announce@ list will +be rejected. This generates a moderation notification with a Subject line +such as: <tt>Returned post for annou...@apache.org</tt>. +The originator of such moderation messages is anonymous if the moderator +neglects to sign the moderation message with their own name, which makes it +impossible to have an actual one-on-one conversation with the moderator. +If you receive such a moderation message please stay calm and forward it to +Subversion's dev@ mailing list so the project can discuss whether anything +needs to be done about it. (If necessary, announce@ mailing list moderators +can be contacted via the announce-owner@ handle.) +In the past, this moderation mechanism was abused to alert the Subversion +project about ASF-wide policy changes in the way the KEYS files are supposed +to be handled. This is inappropriate because moderation is supposed to filter +out spam. Policy changes should be discussed on the dev@ list instead.</p> + <p>Update the topics in various Subversion-related IRC channels, such as <tt>#svn</tt> and <tt>#svn-dev</tt> on freenode.</p>