On Thu 12 May 2016 at 08:45:43 PDT hiro wrote:
Package systems are both a symptom and a cause of bloat. They only
exist because most software, along with its metastasizing dependencies,
is a pain in the ass to compile.
Actually compiling software the right way, without many dependencies
is quite an art these days, so yes, i want to share the results of my
buiding process with others. Many shitty software I'm required to use
doesn't suddenly get less complex just because you like suckless
software.
The correct solution isn't hiding those problems with a package
manager, but to avoid those dependencies and the bloat in
individual programs by following suckless principles in the first place.
Yes, it's too late for that, shitty software already exists and I have
to use it. Now.
Sucks to be you. ;)
Look, I understand that compromises are often forced upon us. For
example, I'm on Comcast not because I like it but because, despite its
shittiness, it's better than any of the other choices available in my
area. And I only use its email server because it's part of the deal.
But when I'm spec'ing an *ideal* distro, in order to evaluate existing
ones, I don't start with the compromises, I start with what I consider
the ideal.
The ideal distro could get by with a ports system like in the BSDs or
Gentoo. (Which isn't to say those existing systems couldn't be
improved.)
Now you're suddenly saying packages are ok?
No, I stand by my original assertion that packages are a bandaid
covering problems which have a better solution.
