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Subject: Re: POJO Application Server for Tomcat


I like its Java Application/Java Class like behavior. Unfortunately it
seems to miss probably the EJB's most important function: 'Transaction
Support'. Please describe how to add or point to some documentation.
Thank you -- George

Thanks George, I will be posting some examples of the way we do it, its a
pure POJO approach, name we do transactions using dB engines, there is no
concept of an entity bean as such in POJO. It amounts to a library that one
uses, as does a database pool.
Listen I'll be happy to answer any questions, but I think for specific
issues on Harbor its better is people just mail me direct, Harbor exists
because of Tomcat, but I dont want to kidnap the Tomcat mailing lists, I
havnt setup a mailing list for harbor yet, but I will.
It kinda cool though huh ;)




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Hello,
Be more specific please? What problems does it solve?
How is that specific to Tomcat, instead of just any servlet container?

Greetings, Lilianne E. Blaze

Johnny Kewl wrote:
> I'd like to show you guys something that I think may blow your minds.
>
> Firstly let me just say that I call myself a hobbyist, dont consider
myself in the same league as the guru's that work on Tomcat and Apache,
but I do spend an enormous amount of time playing with technology. One can
almost measure how much I like a technology by how much time I stay in the
mailing lists, on Postgresql I think it was 3 months, and I really like
that product, on Tomcat it must be close to a year and still counting,
what a fantastic product.
>
> In our office Tomcat is now officially the delivery mechanism for
everything.
>  First I was impressed with Tomcats web abilities, then more and more
with its container ability, we discovered that it can run any code, and
even if it wasnt intended for the web, we started sticking applications
into Tomcat anyway....that idea has now come a long way.
>
> I call it a POJO Application server, I've mentioned before that we
actually popping full java applications out of browsers, but then it was
very much something only I could use, messy libraries etc. What I've done
now is (try) make a more professional package, and it would be really nice
if the guru's just have a little read about this unbelievable servlet, and
let me know what you think, if just to see how someone is using your
Tomcat, in a very unusual way.
>
> As you will see, I dont like EJB containers, but I love Tomcat, and it
was almost inevitable that this would happen.
> All I will say is that this is no ordinary application server... not
unless I missed something and you can also just drop a POJO application
into the others and make it remoteable.
>
> I think its a new way of looking at application servers, it feels like a
discovery to me, but then who knows maybe there is something out there
like this, I dont know, all I do know is that when we drop this servlet
into Tomcat, we run POJO applications over the wire as if they were right
their on the client machine, the same applications that will also run
standalone on the machine. Its so different that I really struggled to
find the relevent theory behind this technology, I think I'm close, but
any pointers or corrections would be much appreciated there as well.
>
> Anyway, would just like to thank all the Tomcat'ers that have helped me
out, people like Chuck, Bill, Christopher, Leon, David, Mark, Mladen...
and if I forgotten you, sorry, so many, it really is the best mailing list
on the web.
>
> Oh! you'll see its only certified for Tomcat ;)
> Only thing left to do now is see if I get Tomcat to make coffee, and
clean the pool... and maybe get this to run on something fishy, you know,
just in case someone needs a real application server ;)
>
> Thanks  http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm
> Johnny
>


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