Being 95% compliant or 2% compliant depends on what: spec, tck, goal, usability etc...
Numbers mean nothing, user feedback does and is rather good for now. Le 5 mai 2016 17:04, "ross.cohen" <ross.cohen...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote > > Le 4 mai 2016 23:28, "ross.cohen" < > > > ross.cohen.rc@ > > > > a écrit : > >> > >> Romain Manni-Bucau wrote > >> > 2016-05-04 14:54 GMT+02:00 ross.cohen < > >> > >> > ross.cohen.rc@ > >> > >> > >: > >> > > >> >> David Blevins-2 wrote > >> >> >> On May 2, 2016, at 5:05 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < > >> > > >> >> > >> >> That is also my recollection of the question. > >> >> > >> >> But whether or not it was the case, it is certainly the case that any > >> >> user > >> >> downloading Tomee 7.x will do so under the impression that it is JEE > 7 > >> >> compliant. This is reason enough to either wait, or continue under > >> the > >> >> current numbering scheme. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Well both lead to the same: tomee is not adapted. Question is then: > >> when > >> > do > >> > we stop waiting for something likely not coming? > >> > >> I don't really care about the TCK. Everyone would like it if Oracle > >> would > >> play nice > >> and released a TCK for us, but it's not going to happen. However, > >> compliance with > >> the specs is a different matter. At what point are we compliant with > the > >> specs? > >> Good question. David says the rest api passes only 75% of the published > >> examples. To me, that is non-compliant. If it were 95%, I'd be > willing > > to > >> call us > >> compliant. Exactly where is the line? I'm not sure, but it can't be > > much > >> below 95%. > >> If users find that the software frequently contradicts the spec, they > >> will > >> become > >> frustrated and angry. > > > > Examples are not spec compliant too or abuse of vendor behavior. Also a > > serious amount of users just need what is in tomee now. I tend to prefer > > to > > move forward with active people than waiting passive ones move - we lost > 2 > > years with such a behavior. > > > > What you mentionned is also true for 100% certified servers so with > > experience I think ignoring it is fine while we fix fast. > > If it is truly the case that Tomee is 95%+ compliant, then releasing 7.0 > seems reasonable. As you point out, no implementation is 100% compliant. > > Cheers. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://tomee-openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/7-0-0-release-vote-tp4678284p4678364.html > Sent from the TomEE Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
