On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> wrote:
> No Andy, as mentionned in the discussion Geronimo hosts the microprofile > @asf. This is why jwt should probably be done in geronimo which is the asf > ee related project umbrella. > I don't recall that discussion. Where did it take place? > > I understand it is not the most convenient for tomitribe which probably > perfers to own the full project(s) but as a foundation member I d really > like to not let company details pollute projects > Also the discussion made clear to not do it in current repo whatever > project is used as umbrella so we should revert that and finish the > discussion before any action to not kill tomee project by a hard company > driven management making it no more in the OSS spirit. > I agree the discussion should happen first, and I note that the change has been reverted. I recall that we agreed on this list that we'd create new git projects for Sheldon and Chatterbox under the TomEE umbrella. Should other components sit under TomEE, I imagine that they would follow the same pattern - i.e. discuss first, agree location, create repo or move things around as appropriate. I don't know what your specific issues are here, but I think you are making some assumptions that are simply not true. Jon > > Le 12 févr. 2018 21:14, "Andy Gumbrecht" <[email protected]> a > écrit : > > > "Parts of the components skeletons you just created" > > > > They're just logically named empty modules for pending work? > > > > > > On 12/02/18 20:42, Mark Struberg wrote: > > > >> And what's that for? > >> > >> Is there any behind the scene stuff going on at Tomitribe or can we > >> finally get back to discussing such things on the Apache lists? > >> > >> Before we go on I'd would first finish the discussion how we want to > turn > >> TomEE into an umbrella project or how the structure would be. And > >> whether/how we want to integrate the modular Geronimo parts into one > >> project or not. > >> > >> Parts of the components skeletons you just created do already exist at > >> the ASF. > >> > >> LieGrue, > >> strub > >> > >> > >> > >> On Monday, 12 February 2018, 20:22:53 CET, Andy Gumbrecht < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Added project stubs: > >> https://github.com/apache/tomee/tree/master/microprofile > >> > >> Andy. > >> > >> > >> On 05/02/18 11:17, Jean-Louis Monteiro wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Ok thanks guys. > >> > @Rudy, you are most welcome :) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Jean-Louis Monteiro > >> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro > >> > http://www.tomitribe.com > >> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Rudy De Busscher < > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> I think it is a very important spec, also for non-microprofile > >> >> implementations as it can enhance the interoperability of all > servers. > >> >> > >> >> I'm also very interested in the implementation (and want to help a > bit > >> with > >> >> it also :) ) > >> >> > >> >> regards > >> >> Rudy > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 2 February 2018 at 11:23, Mark Struberg <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> To clarify this even further: > >> >>> The Geronimo Server is now officially dead. > >> >>> But the Geronimo project is not. It alredy contains quite a few > >> modular > >> >>> parts which are reused in many ASF projects and also outside. > >> >>> Examples is the geronimo-transaction-manager, geronimo-javamail, > >> >>> geronimo-config, xbean-finder, etc > >> >>> > >> >>> Of course it would probably make sense to fold those 2 projects > >> together, > >> >>> as already discussed in the past. > >> >>> I'm still all open to it, but I have an important criterium to > fulfil: > >> >>> If we move those portable parts to TomEE, then this would mean that > >> TomEE > >> >>> would become an 'Umbrella project'. > >> >>> And further that we would need a new name for those portable parts. > >> >>> They would effectively be mainatained by the TomEE community (which > >> has a > >> >>> big overlap with Geronimo anyway) but those parts must clearly be > >> >>> recognized separately from TomEE. > >> >>> > >> >>> Otherwise people will assume that those parts only work within > TomEE - > >> >>> where in reality they would even work on WildFly or Liberty, etc. or > >> >> even a > >> >>> naked Tomcat. > >> >>> Got me? > >> >>> > >> >>> We might e.g. brand them as 'TomEE Geronimo Spare Parts Department' > :) > >> >>> > >> >>> LieGrue, > >> >>> strub > >> >>> > >> >>> PS: I'd also love to keep the org.apache.geronimo package name to > ease > >> >>> backward compatibility. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> Am 02.02.2018 um 11:08 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau < > >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> >>>> : > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2018-02-02 11:05 GMT+01:00 Otávio Gonçalves de Santana < > >> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Guys, I have a question: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Why not a project to each implementation? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> this is the case but geronimo is used as an umbrella project. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> This way I can use just a specific if I want also. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> exactly the goal and user usage AFAIK ;) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> long story short: we learnt from the past errors and since always > the > >> >>> same > >> >>>> people work on these projects it is better to not split it accross > N > >> >>>> communities since > >> >>>> it leads to a lot of efforts for these people. Having a single > >> umbrella > >> >>>> project with N subprojects reduces the administrative work etc and > >> >>> enhance > >> >>>> the projects productivity. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < > >> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> Hi JL, > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Microprofile apache effort is hosted in geronimo and John already > >> >> spoke > >> >>>>>> about it I think. Would probably saner to keep it all at the same > >> >> place > >> >>>>> for > >> >>>>>> the foundation. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau > >> >>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > >> >>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > >> >>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/ > >> >>>>>> rmannibucau> | > >> >>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > >> >>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java- > >> >>>>>> ee-8-high-performance> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> 2018-02-02 9:39 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro < > >> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> >>>>>> : > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Hi all, > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I was wondering if we could have the Microprofile JWT > implemented > >> in > >> >>>>>> TomEE. > >> >>>>>>> What do you think? > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I was reading the spec and I'd like to contribute that in. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Jean-Louis > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro > >> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro > >> >>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Andy Gumbrecht > >> https://twitter.com/AndyGeeDe > >> > >> http://www.tomitribe.com > >> > >> https://www.tomitribe.io > >> > >> > >> Ubique > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Andy Gumbrecht > > https://twitter.com/AndyGeeDe > > http://www.tomitribe.com > > https://www.tomitribe.io > > > > > > Ubique > > > > >
