Thank you Jon!

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 5:35 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it. As long as there's no
> objections I'll merge the PR in.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:28 AM Gurkan Erdogdu <cgerdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jon.
> >
> > I don't have any aim to replace service-jar.xml approach. We will just
> add
> > another YAML based configuration support. Therefore, all tomee.xml,
> > resources.xml etc will be stay in there. YAML is just an additional
> > feature.
> >
> > Introducing new module , tomee-config, allow us to centralise all
> > configuration into one place and all other modules can use it via
> > dependency. In the future, we can remove all configuration codes from
> > openejb-core, etc. into this module. There are lots of system properties
> > using in different modules, therefore each such module will add their
> > properties into TomEESystemConfig class and then use it.
> >
> > Currently, openejb-core is a one large module. We may also think to
> divide
> > this module into smaller modules which are having special purpose.
> >
> > Hope it clears your concerns.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Gurkan
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:30 PM Jonathan Gallimore <
> > jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I commented on your PR - thanks for sending that over. I think it would
> > be
> > > worthwhile structuring the class with the constants in such a way that
> > the
> > > javadoc could end up on the website via David's site generation code.
> > That
> > > would be extremely cool and I'm sure a very useful piece of
> > documentation.
> > >
> > > While I appreciate your service-jar.xml visibility comment, I suspect
> > that
> > > is because of something missing in its documentation, as opposed to an
> > > issue with the design choice. I don't necessarily object to something
> > that
> > > can parse the config in YAML (I believe there is something that handles
> > > JSON already), providing the existing config mechanism in XML, with the
> > > defaults in service-jar.xml continued to work, and that I wouldn't be
> > > forced to migrate from XML to YAML. Many users make use of tomee.xml
> and
> > > resources.xml in a huge number of applications. Forcing a migration on
> > them
> > > to YAML "just because" doesn't make sense to me. The concept of the
> > > service-jar.xml is a very core design concept in TomEE and I would not
> be
> > > favour of changing it unless there was a really good rationale and a
> > better
> > > design proposed and discussed.
> > >
> > > I agree that system properties can lead to "magic" parameters that
> aren't
> > > well documented, and I'm definitely in favour of improving the
> > > documentation of those properties. The ability to override config with
> > > system properties, however, is useful and also widely used so we'll
> need
> > to
> > > keep it.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:53 AM Gurkan Erdogdu <cgerdo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > For me, using services-jar.xml approach is not so visible to users.
> All
> > > > defaults are configured in this file and packaged within JAR file.
> > Users
> > > > are not able to read the parameter explanation from services-jar.xml
> > > files.
> > > > Also, services.-jar.xml is somebit different from using the system
> > > > properties to turn-on/off something. I am also thinking to introduce
> > YAML
> > > > based configuration.
> > > >
> > > > But first step is to centralise all of these system parameters into
> two
> > > > classes. Maybe, we will see that some of them are unnecessary etc.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:44 PM Bruno Baptista <bruno...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, there is.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is also the most basic MP spec and nothing prevents us from
> > using
> > > > > it everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > There might be Jakarta EE restrictions in how to handle
> > configurations
> > > > > that need to be assessed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Overall, I think that if we are going to mess with configs, we
> should
> > > > > use state of the art.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruno Baptista
> > > > > https://twitter.com/brunobat_
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 02/01/19 09:35, Jean-Louis Monteiro wrote:
> > > > > > I think with microprofile-config we may have a chicken and the
> egg
> > > > > problem,
> > > > > > isn't it?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:30 AM Bruno Baptista <
> bruno...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Gurkan,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I agree we have a problem with the documentation of the
> different
> > > > > >> properties and that we need to improve it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Doing the inventory and using the proposed syntax looks ok to me
> > > but I
> > > > > >> also think we should go even further.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> How about to migrate all the properties to use
> > microprofile-config?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Cheers.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Bruno Baptista
> > > > > >> https://twitter.com/brunobat_
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 02/01/19 07:20, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hello
> > > > > >>> There are lots of known and unknown system properties in the
> > > current
> > > > > code
> > > > > >>> base. I would like to introduce TomEESystemProperties and
> > > > > >>> OpenEJBSystemProperties classes to hold these system property
> > > > constants
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >>> provide clear comment what it does. For example:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> class TomEESystemProperties{
> > > > > >>>       public static final String TOMEE_FORCE_RELOADABLE =
> > > > > >>> "tomee.force-reloadable";
> > > > > >>> ....
> > > > > >>> }
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> class OpenEJBSystemProperties{
> > > > > >>>      public static final String OPENEJB_CROSSCONTEXT_PROPERTY =
> > > > > >>> "openejb.crosscontext";
> > > > > >>> ....
> > > > > >>> }
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> WDYT?
> > > > > >>> Regards.
> > > > > >>> Gurkan
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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