I'm plus one on this if we add an automatic DB backup during install and a 
restore utility.

Derek

On Oct 19, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Robert Butts <[email protected]> wrote:

>> simply restore pre-upgrade copy of the DB
> 
> What about the data manually changed in-between? What if you've been
> running for a week before discovering a critical issue requiring rollback?
> All those changes would be lost?
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:07 AM Dave Neuman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think this sounds reasonable assuming we work out the details later.
>> +1
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 07:59 Dave Cardosi (dcardosi)
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>>> On 10/18/18, 7:49 PM, "Rawlin Peters" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to propose we drop support for `goose down` in terms of doing
>>>> a Traffic Ops downgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> Right now whenever you upgrade Traffic Ops you also need to run
>>>> `db/admin.pl upgrade` to migrate the DB to the latest version. This
>>>> step runs all unapplied migrations since the last DB migration was
>>>> applied. However, if something goes wrong with the deploy and TO needs
>>>> to be rolled back, you have to run `db/admin.pl down` X times if your
>>>> TO upgrade ran X migrations in order to get back to the pre-upgrade
>>>> state of the DB. There are also certain steps in `db/admin.pl upgrade`
>>>> that cannot be reversed with a `goose down`, because they are done in
>>>> patches.sql or seeds.sql. So even if you `db/admin.pl down` the
>>>> correct number of times to get back to the _original_ schema version,
>>>> it's likely that your data has actually changed irreversibly (but
>>>> maybe not in a very bad way).
>>>> 
>>>> A much safer alternative to `db/admin.pl down` is to simply restore a
>>>> pre-upgrade copy of the DB. I think we should make that the
>>>> "supported" DB rollback process rather than the `goose down`. For dev
>>>> purposes I think it's fine to still include `goose down` steps in your
>>>> migrations, but I think we should build pre-upgrade DB copying into
>>>> the official upgrade process as well as restoration of the pre-upgrade
>>>> DB on rollback.
>>>> 
>>>> Manually saving off a copy of the pre-upgrade DB should already be a
>>>> step in everyone's TO upgrade process, but I'm proposing we actually
>>>> build this functionality into the upgrade process itself, drop support
>>>> for `goose down`, and add support for DB restoration upon rollback.
>>>> 
>>>> Initially I'd like to just get +1/-1 on this proposal, then we can
>>>> follow up and figure out the best way to implement it.
>>>> 
>>>> - Rawlin
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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