+1 for Terence. On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Terence Yim <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the nomination. +1 for myself > > Terence > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 12, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Poorna Chandra <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > +1 > > > >> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gary Helmling <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> +1 > >> > >>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:45 PM Andreas Neumann <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> +1 for Terence. > >>> > >>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Henry Saputra < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Mea culpa for dropping ball on this. Was busy preparing for Apache Big > >>> Data > >>>> Con about Apache Twill =P > >>>> > >>>> I need to propose a VP as part of resolution to board. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to nominate Terence Yim as the VP for Apache Twill. If > >>> people > >>>> agree with this nomination, we could go on with board resolution for > >>>> graduation. > >>>> Otherwise feel free to nominate different people and we can have VOTE. > >>>> > >>>> - Henry > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Be sure to review the incubator "graduation" documentation. There's a > >>>>> set of steps that need to be followed. > >>>>> > >>>>> Patrick > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Henry Saputra < > >>> [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> We could send it now. Sorry I was bit pre-occupied in the last > >> week. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any PPMC could start the official VOTE thread to make it happen. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If no one beats me, I will send it tomorrow. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Sreevatsan Raman < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks Henry for taking this initiative. Do we need to do anything > >>>>> before > >>>>>>> we send the graduation vote? When can we send this? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Sree > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Henry Saputra < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the insights, Tom. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If no more comments and concerns, I will send graduation VOTE in > >>>> next > >>>>>>>> couple days. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Henry Saputra < > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Tom, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ah sorry, it was me who misread your email. Somehow my mind > >>> went > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> "Crunch" as in Apache Crunch. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Super Mea culpa from my side. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> No worries! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know about Clutch =P > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I thought you would do :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There is one new committer and PPMC added since incubation, > >>>> which > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>> me. > >>>>>>>>>> And it is reflected in the reports. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That's good to know. As I said, I think Twill as a project has > >>>>>>>>> demonstrated it operates well at Apache and is ready to > >>> graduate. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Need to update the Twill incubator status page to reflect > >> it. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Tom White < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Clutch is a reporting tool that gives a useful summary of > >>>>> incubator > >>>>>>>>>>> metrics for projects in the incubator, including Twill. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For example column K is for the number of committers added > >>>> during > >>>>>>>>>>> incubation, which is what prompted my original question. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Henry Saputra < > >>>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> HI Tom, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think you mixed up between Twill and Clutch? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> As for Twill, we are seeing potential new committers but > >>> bit > >>>>>>> missing > >>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> stickiness to > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure some projects outside use Twill already. I > >> think > >>>>>>>> graduation > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> just another stepping stone for project to grow. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hoping in the near future more new committers will be > >>> coming > >>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> contribute. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Tom White < > >>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is indeed a small podling, but I think Twill has > >>>>> demonstrated > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to graduate. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I noticed from the Clutch report was that no > >> new > >>>>>>>> committers > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have been added since the start of graduation [1]. Is > >> this > >>>>>>> because > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a lack of suitable candidates? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Henry Saputra < > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Terence. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love to hear more thoughts about the graduation > >>>>> proposal. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other Mentors (other than Patrick whom have been > >>>> contributed > >>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> already), > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we rarely ask for help but this is definitely one of > >>> time > >>>> we > >>>>>>> need > >>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Terence Yim < > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for initiating the discussion about > >> graduation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the subscribers of the dev@list, it is > >> currently > >>>>> have > >>>>>>> 60 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribers, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparing to 27 about a year ago (01/31/16 vs > >>> 01/22/15). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terence > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Henry Saputra > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Patrick, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the late reply, was trying the time to > >>> gather > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look at the email archive [1] you can see > >> the > >>>> dev@ > >>>>>>>> list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good amount of emails. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This include messages from Github Pull Requests > >>> mirror > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>> JIRA > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The new features development and design had always > >>> been > >>>>> made > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not admin for dev@ list so I do not have > >>> numbers > >>>>> about > >>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>>> many > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase of subscriber. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the community has released about 7 good > >> releases > >>>> [2] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From start of incubation it added only 1 new PPMCs > >>>> member > >>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>> it is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because lack of trying. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community has presented in Apache Con 2014 [3] > >>> and > >>>>> add > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public sites [4] [5]. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More importantly, the mentors had not needed to add > >>> any > >>>>>>> advice > >>>>>>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> validate the report. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The releases made were one of the easiest ones to > >>> vote > >>>>> for. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting my IPMC hat on, I do not see any reason for > >>>>> Twill to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator anymore. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >> https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/twill/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > >> > http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/875342b2235e30ec53057352ac7df111 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4] > >> > http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609460/hadoop/meet-apache-twill--the-newest-member-of-club-hadoop.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [5] > >> > https://jaxenter.com/developing-distributed-applications-with-apache-twill-107728.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Hunt < > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry, thanks for sending this out. Strictly > >>>>> looking at > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation requirements on the incubator wikis I > >>>> think > >>>>>>>> you're > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty good shape. I agree the community is > >> small, > >>>> but > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>> might > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the way the project is. More the question is > >> is > >>> it > >>>>> an > >>>>>>>> open > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community that understands the Apache Way and is > >>>> ready > >>>>> for > >>>>>>>> tlp > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide some quantitative insight into > >>>>> progress? > >>>>>>>> E.g. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of pmc added, committers, etc... diversity of the > >>>>>>> community. > >>>>>>>>>>> Growth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mailing lists. Some hard numbers that could > >>>> provide > >>>>>>>>> concrete > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insight and help with the evaluation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was recently involved in a discussion on the > >>>>> incubator > >>>>>>>> list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry graduation. During that discussion someone > >>>>>>> mentioned > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following document which it seems some folks are > >>>> using > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> evaluate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation readiness. It's not a requirement of > >>>>>>> graduation, > >>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you feel the project stacks up when evaluated > >>> against > >>>>> it? > >> > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Henry Saputra > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI All, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up graduation of Apache > >>> Twill > >>>>> as > >>>>>>> top > >>>>>>>>>>> level > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community has released several successful > >>>>> releases > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanded > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PPMC to show openness, and also have done > >> all > >>>>>>>>> discussions > >>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development in the open following the Apache > >> way. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The podling is indeed small, and so far has not > >>>>> attract > >>>>>>>> much > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributions > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from outside world. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is bc most development apps for YARN > >>> are > >>>>> done > >>>>>>>>> mostly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework developers which sometimes don't mind > >>> to > >>>>> spend > >>>>>>>>> boiler > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange for closer control to the lower APIs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I believe Twill community has nothing > >>> left > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> learn by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staying > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the incubator. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts and comments are welcomed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry > >> > -- From: Deepak D Dixit [email protected] +919028507537
