If Todd's interested, we should hold a vote.  We should probably hold a
vote regardless.

We can also plan to practice the common pattern of rolling PMC chairs.  Its
a boring job, but someone has to do it.  By rotating periodically (e.g.
annually) we're keeping it a chore for a year only.

John

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 8:21 AM Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm willing to serve as PMC Chair unless Todd wants this.
>
> Todd: please read up on this thread an respond so we can move ahead with
> graduation.  This is the one about the PMC Chair:
> http://markmail.org/message/u4njh6uxlgkafcws
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:48 PM Ed Anuff <e...@anuff.com> wrote:
>
> > Agree that Todd or Dave are great candidates.  Of course, it's not a
> > draft, so need to see who actually wants it.
> >
> > I've been watching the whole diversity thread on the Incubator list and
> > there does seem to be some polarized opinions.  I think it would be
> useful
> > to review the recent commentary around other proposed graduations to see
> > how we fare regard to that as well as the other issues.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > > On Jul 25, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Rod Simpson <r...@rodsimpson.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 for Dave or Todd
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rod Simpson
> > >
> > > On July 25, 2015 at 11:28:17 AM, John D. Ament (john.d.am...@gmail.com
> )
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A few comments in line (I was going to email to see what the status
> was,
> > > then noticed it was in git, then saw this mail... slowly catching up).
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:40 AM Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Now that I have updated the project status page (usergrid.xml) to
> > include
> > >> all committers and their users (
> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/usergrid.html -- not sure why it
> > has
> > >> not updated yet), I believe we are ready to move ahead with
> graduation.
> > >>
> > >> Graduation to a top level project requires:
> > >> - a charter for your project
> > >> - a positive community graduation VOTE
> > >> - a positive IPMC recommendation VOTE
> > >> - the acceptance of the resolution by the Board
> > >> (link: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#process)
> > >>
> > >> I have put together a DRAFT charter here:
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-usergrid/blob/master/tlp-resolution.txt
> > >>
> > >> To complete the charter we need to decide who will be the Project
> > >> Management Committee (PMC) chair, aka VP Apache Usergrid. This person
> > will
> > >> be the ASF Board of Directors eyes and ears on the project and will be
> > >> responsible for writing the project status report every couple of
> > months,
> > >> ensuring that Apache policies are being followed and when appropriate
> > >> raising issues to the attention of the board. The chair has no special
> > >> authority to make technical decisions or direct the project.
> > >>
> > >> So, for discussion:
> > >>
> > >> * Are we really truly ready to gradate?
> > >
> > > The only concern I can see coming up is a diverse enough community. Its
> > > come up a few times with recent graduations, so let's make sure. I
> think
> > > everything else has been resolved, so we're good.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> * What else do we need to do before we graduate?
> > > * Should we ask all committers if they want to remain in project? (we
> > >> haven't heard from some in a while, and one does not have an account)
> > > Yes, you should. In addition, I would like to see a distinct list of
> > > PMC/Committers in the resolution, even if its mostly the same.
> > >
> > >
> > >> * Nominations for PMC chair?
> > >
> > > My nominations are:
> > > - Dave
> > > - Todd
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> * Any other concerns? Mentors?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Sorry for the delayed response.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was waiting for after the 1.0.2 release to join this discussion and
> > now
> > >>> that 1.0.2 is going out to the mirrors, I think we are ready to
> propose
> > >>> graduation. We should figure out the next steps and move quickly
> > towards
> > >> a
> > >>> graduation vote.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Dave
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM Shawn Feldman <
> > shawn.feld...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Scott used to work full time on the project so not mistaken. Not
> sure
> > >> who
> > >>>> Alberto is
> > >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:29 AM John D. Ament <
> johndam...@apache.org>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM John D. Ament <
> > johndam...@apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I notice that [1] is still not up to date with committer's IDs.
> > >> Came
> > >>>> up
> > >>>>>> last time graduation was discussed. I just committed some fixes
> > >>>> based on
> > >>>>>> IDs I could look up at [2], it looks like we have one case with a
> > >>>> person
> > >>>>>> who never reconciled their CLA (Alberto Leal). That can be
> > >> addressed
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> graduation with regard to who the initial PMC and committers are.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Also note - Scott Ganyo is listed on the committer index, HOWEVER,
> he
> > >>>> does
> > >>>>> not show as incubator, which he should show, so I'm not sure if
> it's
> > a
> > >>>> case
> > >>>>> of mistaken identity or what.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I think it is time for Usergrid to graduate.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> John
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/usergrid.html
> > >>>>>> [2]: http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:18 AM Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> > >>>>>> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Folks,
> > >>>>>>> I would like to propose that Usergrid moves towards a graduation.
> > >>>>>>> I am satisfied that the UG podling community has proven itself
> > >>>> suitable
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> graduation.
> > >>>>>>> I would like to keep this thread open for a wee while for us to
> > >>>> ponder
> > >>>>>>> over
> > >>>>>>> the graduation effort... based on the outcome we can make a
> > >> decision
> > >>>>> what
> > >>>>>>> to do.
> > >>>>>>> Excellent work on recent RC's Dave (I refrained on VOTE'ing to
> see
> > >>>> if UG
> > >>>>>>> was capable of making VOTE's and it was more than successful).
> > >>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>> Lewis
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> *Lewis*
> > >>
> >
>

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