why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.  in
fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +1
>
> (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)
>
> geir
>
> On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:
>
>> Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available
>> here:
>> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/
>>
>> Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as
>> VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:
>>
>> [ ] +1 Let's do it
>> [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
>> [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
>> [ ] -1 No, because __________________
>>
>> The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
>> roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
>> then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)
>>
>> My vote is, again, +1
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's
>>> the result for the record:
>>>
>>> -1
>>> Nathan Bubna
>>> Will Glass-Husain
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this
>>>> too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
>>>> Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this won't be
>>>> going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.
>>>>>
>>>>> WILL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src>ant
>>>>> Buildfile: build.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> clean:
>>>>>  [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
>>>>>  [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist
>>>>>
>>>>> clean-examples:
>>>>>
>>>>> simple-example:
>>>>>
>>>>> example-clean:
>>>>>
>>>>> showcase-example:
>>>>>
>>>>> example-clean:
>>>>>
>>>>> struts-example:
>>>>>
>>>>> example-clean:
>>>>>
>>>>> test.clean:
>>>>>
>>>>> prepare.compile:
>>>>>  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
>>>>>  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
>>>>>  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist
>>>>>
>>>>> base-download:
>>>>>
>>>>> commons-collections-download:
>>>>>
>>>>> http-m1-download:
>>>>>
>>>>> do-http-m1-download:
>>>>>    [get] Getting:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>    [get] To: C:\Documents and
>>>>>
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>    [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
>>>>> http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
>>>>> ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>    [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
>>>>> http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
>>>>> ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>    [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
>>>>> http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
>>>>> ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>    [get] Can't get
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
>>>>> C:\Doc
>>>>> uments and
>>>>>
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>
>>>>> BUILD FAILED
>>>>> C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The
>>>>> following error occurred while executing
>>>>> this line:
>>>>> C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40:
>>>>> The
>>>>> following error occurred while executin
>>>>> g this line:
>>>>> C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209:
>>>>> The
>>>>> following error occurred while executi
>>>>> ng this line:
>>>>> C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121:
>>>>> The
>>>>> following error occurred while executi
>>>>> ng this line:
>>>>> C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132:
>>>>> Can't
>>>>> get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m
>>>>> irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to
>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-
>>>>> beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
>>>>>
>>>>> Total time: 1 second
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm
>>>>>> moving on to a vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The test build is still available here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ ] +1 Let's do it
>>>>>> [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
>>>>>> [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
>>>>>> [ ] -1 No, because __________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
>>>>>> roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st.  If the vote passes, I'll push
>>>>>> this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and here is a test build for Tools 2.0-beta3:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this should be the last Tools 2.0 beta release, barring any major
>>>>>>> bugs
>>>>>>> appearing.  with another push on the documentation front, "we" should
>>>>>>> be able to get 2.0 to final by Christmas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyway, give the tires a kicking on this one too.  hopefully, we can
>>>>>>> release this the same day as Engine 1.6.  then i'll only have to ask
>>>>>>> Henning to update the public site once.  that would be nice. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> nathan
>>>>>>>
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