we all know why....

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

and Henning for that matter, since lately i have had to resort to
asking him to do it after several fruitless attempts.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page, etc)
updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have to
update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off early affect
the site?

geir

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of participation, and in addition, someone might find something and vote -1
and be convincing in their argument.


On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

why not end early? :( i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release. in fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on this, Claude. If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:

+1

(And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

geir

On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available
here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build
as
VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __________________

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3. Though if i get 3 +1s before
then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

My vote is, again, +1

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so
here's
the result for the record:

-1
Nathan Bubna
Will Glass-Husain

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:

Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported
this
too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't
be
going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

-1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

WILL


C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src>ant
Buildfile: build.xml

clean:
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

clean-examples:

simple-example:

example-clean:

showcase-example:

example-clean:

struts-example:

example-clean:

test.clean:

prepare.compile:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build \classes
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

base-download:

commons-collections-download:

http-m1-download:

do-http-m1-download:
[get] Getting:



http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] To: C:\Documents and



Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib \commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Can't get



http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
C:\Doc
uments and



Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib \commons-collections-3.2.jar

BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src \build.xml:104:
The
following error occurred while executing
this line:
C:\Documents and

Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src \download.xml:40:
The
following error occurred while executin
g this line:
C:\Documents and


Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src \download.xml:209:
The
following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and


Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src \download.xml:121:
The
following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and


Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src \download.xml:132:
Can't
get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m
irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons- collections-3.2.jar
to
C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-
beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

Total time: 1 second




On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:

Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm
moving on to a vote.

The test build is still available here:



http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ <http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ >

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test
build
as
VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __________________

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to
deploy
it.
With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:

and here is a test build for Tools 2.0-beta3:




http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0- beta3/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ >

this should be the last Tools 2.0 beta release, barring any major
bugs
appearing. with another push on the documentation front, "we"
should
be able to get 2.0 to final by Christmas.

anyway, give the tires a kicking on this one too. hopefully, we
can
release this the same day as Engine 1.6. then i'll only have to
ask
Henning to update the public site once. that would be nice. :)

thanks,
nathan




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