Hi Martin,

Interesting subject...
We are dealing with two different interpretations of a project:

a static project like API, Wordprocessor, Impress, Base, etc.

The IMHO more interesting interpretation of a project is the project management point of view: a project is a clearly described effort to achieve something in a certain timeframe.
Is that what you refer to as 'Teams'?
Have a list of active project would point to the area where the current development effort are. That's why I introduced also the Category Projects to allow listing also of such Projects.

I'm unsure if we really need project in the sense of a static project:
That is, we don't need projects on the wiki, or in general? I like projects because they are giving some context to what is happening there. A place to start. And having defined projects doesn't stop people from collaborating... look at e.g. art/marketing and the website project.
My proposal for a new wiki home page <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page_tryout_mh>
may explain why
To me, this page seems like a bit of awkward attempt to create a new homepage of the general website. I'm not so happy with this proposal myself.
Information in general can be categorized into three types:

static documentation: such information get published at a time and is intended to be one way communication (such as plain documentation, FAQ, HowTo etc.).
Do you think such information should be published on a wiki? A wiki is all about dynamic... I see though, that e.g. the FAQ at the wiki is a semi-static project... If it is really static, I'd say, publish it as HTML.
dynamic documentation: this documents are usually worked on in project (project management pov) and often have the status draft. they may be published in the finish of a project and became then the status of static information (see above). This kind of communication of often bidirectional but asynchron.
Got that, so maybe a FAQ is more like this? There is a draft, that communicates, but also is finetuned every now and then?

plus the introduction of a defined set of additional categories like API, Wordprocessor, Base, Porting , Minutes, Development, Build System, Tuturials, MacOSX, QA this allow us to implement additional structures within the wiki. Assigning all the pages to a category of that scheme would also reduce the amount of orphant pages (<http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Lonelypages>) currently we have more than 500 of such Lonely pages, that means that a significant amount of pages is not accessible by random users.
Promoting a limited set of categories is a good idea to add structure.
Right now I would not consider our wiki as an success, I'm impressed how many good pages have been created in the last few years, but I'm also disappointed about how difficult it is to get to new useful information.
It is a culture change... most of these efforts are powered by a mere 1% of the users. I don't know about the OpenOffice.org wiki, but I have no reason to suspect this is different here at OOo. I'm trying to push usage of the wiki more within the website project, and hope that it is being picked up...

I think the value of a wiki is partly in the allowed chaos. Allowing people to create quick drafts... without thinking too much about structure yet. Allowing for structure is ok, but should imho not refrain a beginning user from starting to use the wiki, because it seems so regulated. I was less hesitated in starting a website project page, simply because the wiki was in a relatively shabby state :) ... it makes things accessible... low entry. That is not something one should neglect.

g.,


Maarten

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