Graham,
* Download button should appear in page after clicking on the download
action statement [MEDIUM] -> Somewhat ok, but I think it needs to get
the appearance of a green box... but can do as it is now.
Don't think this is necessary, just switch to the new download page.
Remember all the requests "make snapshots/rc/milestone builds more
prominent"? When hiding the real download page by introducing a download
in the front-page we're back to that problem.
Furthermore none of the other action-items opens up, so I vote against
incorporating the download page inside the frontpage.
I'm with Christian on this
And now you leave me alone!!! :'( That is so unfair...
(...)Despite the great redesign effort, I think the
download page is not the best page to present to a beginning user.... we
need sense and simplicity... (guess where I'm working ;) )
Every additional item on there is going to delay the new users departure from
this page. Simplicity means as few options as possible. I personally would
like to see just 5 links on the page, that would be simple. At present we
have 20 plus a login dialog and growing
True. But there are still 5 major links... it doesn't matter whether
there technically 100+ <a href>'s in a page... it matters how they are
presented. Technically speaking there is an infinite number of links
between me and the place I work, but the environment is designed for me
in such a way that I, well I hope so, take the most efficient route to
my goal.
But sometimes there are choices. I make such choice daily when I take
the train to work. Do I take the route down the shopping area
(trainstations are no longer just trainstations these days) where I have
a higher chance of getting the free news paper and may even be tempted
to buy a cup of coffee, or do I take the tunnel below that allows for
high speed walking and a reduced chance of bumping into someone... For
simplicity reasons I normally take the faster tunnel, the shopping mall
is a complex beast to navigate through (all these stores want to sell me
something I don't want), and the free news paper is in the train, left
by someone before me anyhow.
So where is the analogy? The train that I want to catch is like the
download of OOo. The coffee and the free news paper may be nice... but
may prefent me from catching the train in the first place, because the
coffee isn't served fast enough, and I bumped against someone else. That
translates to the release notes may be a nice read, before I download,
and I may even be tempted to check out the extensions... but I loose the
original goal. We were talking about 5 links for the main page... the
download page has many more. Yes I said, it is a matter of presentation.
But a) we know this user clicked to download OpenOffice.org, not
extensions, still, the link to the extensions is as prominent as the
download button. We are targetting at end users, but the Release
candidate button is also competing with equal prominence for the user's
attention. Although the tunnel doesn't have electronic signs indicating
departure times... I still can't see any of the departure time boards in
the mall area, because everything is screaming for attention.
Using javascript to make the download button appear, is an investment
of, maybe a kilobyte. Note that previously we were discussing an
advanced piece of javascript that gave a nice effect as well... now it
is simply showing a block of text onclick. It is the difference between:
>"I want something to drink"
<"If you walk 100m further down, you will find a restaurant at your
right hand side"
-5min later-
>"I want something to drink"
< "Ok, we have coffee, espresso, cappuccino, thee, orange juice, beer,
.... "
> "Coffee is ok"
and
> "I want something to drink"
< "I serve coffee and thee, is that what you want?" (and the person is
able to deliver you this right on)
which may continue:
> "Yes, please" and download starts
or
> "No, I want a coffee with pie"
< "If you walk 100m further down, you will find a restaurant at your
right hand side"
(how it continues, see above)
If 90% of the people just want coffee... offering the coffee at the spot
is converting most in buyers.
Oh and btw, this person only asks for whether you want to drink coffee
or thee, when you actually indicate that you want to buy something to drink.
g.,
Maarten
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