Hi T.J., On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM, T. J. Frazier <[email protected]> wrote: > [...] >> I counted 3 zooms times before the 'y' in History started being >> truncated (Both WinXP & Ubuntu, FF 3.0.5). After 5 zooms, all >> characters started being truncated. That seems pretty reasonable - are >> you using some special font? > > I run about 3 zooms above that. I admit that the cataract operation, and the > progressive lenses I wear, may have something to do with that. 8-)>>> > [glasses, smile, long grey beard here]. I view from about 30 inches away, > very comfortably.
Wow! In that case, I would encourage you to use whole page zoom instead of text-only zoom. I would expect most designs to break after 8 text zoom increases (but then again you probably have a much higher resolution if you're watching it from 30 inches away). >> The text moves downward because of the top padding which is required >> to center the text in the tabs. I switched to a line-height solution >> but it only produced a marginal improvement. Because the tab div has a >> specific vertical height, it is not allowed to expand even if it wants >> to - if it were, the text would remain vertically centered. There are >> reasons why a specific height is set for the navigation, but if this >> feature is needed, I could investigate further. >> > > I admit to probably not understanding the problem; but then, I do CSS / HTML > in Notepad, only very simple stuff. > * Why is (vertical) centering in the tabs wanted or needed? Closer to the > top should be OK. For aesthetic reasons, mainly. Most navigations have their menu entries vertically centered - it would look odd otherwise. > For that matter, try running the zoom down four or five times (from /your/ > normal setting; more for mine). The text stays close to the top of the > image. Yes, but it doesn't reach the top of the navigation bar either. The text always begins a fixed number of pixels below the very top of the navigation, and this does not change whether you zoom in or out. >>> On a page without an associated Discussion page, all the other tabs >>> appear >>> grey. The impression this gives is that the blue = "you are on this >>> tab", >>> while the grey = "inactive, you are not here". Quite a two-pipe problem. >>> I >>> would very much like to see some special color/shading designation for >>> "action=edit" redlink. >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by color/shading - as far as I know, every >> .new (action = edit) link has a different style to its standard >> counterpart. >> > AFAIK, CSS doesn't provide background patterns (although the images could, > of course). At present, on the wiki Main Page, all the tabs except "Page" > show grey. They are blue on my display, and since we have the exact same browser, they should be on yours too. Could you please send me a screenshot? > The grey tabs all have some kind of "action=" link, but not > always "=edit". > > This is a more serious problem than the zoom, because it affects everyone, > not just near-sighted old fossils like me. I am seeking a way to make it > visually *obvious* what's going on with the tabs. I suggest that the current > styles don't do that. I seek to distinguish "you aren't here" from "you may > not want to go here" (action=edit). Patterns could do that. Different colors > could do that. Something else could do that? You are here = blue outline + white background on the tab. You can go here = blue link You might not want to go here / Edit page = gray for navigation / personal links, red for page content. This is what was designed, and this is what I see. Perhaps the distinction between the gray and blue links is not clear enough - do you have a particular color in mind that you think would be better? This is a valid point, but at this stage I need a better idea of what you're seeing, because at the moment I'm too used to seeing what I normally see (and I see the wiki pretty much every day) to imagine anything different :) Regards, Ivan. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
