Hi Bernd, On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Bernd Eilers <[email protected]>wrote:
> On 11.07.2010 11:54, Ivan M wrote: > > Hi Bernd, > > > Hi Ivan! > > comments below.... > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Bernd Eilers <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Kay Schenk wrote: > > > [... snip ...] > > I'm just really wondering about any HUGE overhauls in light of eventual > Kenai migration, which I still haven't learned much about. > > > You can learn more about kenai migration > athttp://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Home > > Note that work on creating a theme for kenai with the CURRENT OOo Look & > Feel has already been started and work on the basic elements there is nearly > complete so just now might not be the very best time to consider a major > redesign in the light of upcoming kenai migration. > > So it seems that the migration will be happening sooner rather than > later? There has been no activity (as far as I could see) on the > mailing lists for the ooo-migration and test2ooo projects and it > doesn't seem like progress has been made on (for example) Kenai issue > 1834 regarding the modifiability of site templates on a > project-by-project basis (http://kenai.com/jira/browse/KENAI-1834). I > haven't seen any wiki pages newer than February 2010. > > > > Progress on most kenai related work has indeed been stalled for a while but > we have just recently restarted some work on the OOo kenai migration. > That makes sense, if work has been restarted then it changes the situation somewhat. > There´s a small Oracle internal team which is currently looking into > technical details of how to get data from one system into the other. > > Having resources available for adding new kenai features like that > KENAI-1834 issue will though still need some time as people which would be > able to implement such things are currently busy with other tasks. > > There is also no staging site yet. We will inform you as soon as it will > become available. > > > kenai is based on ruby for rails as CMS and thus the kenai theme for OOo is > basically just a bunch of ruby for rails files which integrate with the > kenai infrastructure. You can find the source code for the OOo kenai theme > here: https://svn.kenai.com/svn/ooo-migration~themes > <https://svn.kenai.com/svn/ooo-migration%7Ethemes>. > > I got a 404 Not Found error when trying this URL, and the same for > every file mentioned on the Migration page of the wiki > (http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Migration). > > > > You have to use that source URL with a "svn checkout" command not with a > browser to get the source code. > > The links on that "Migration" page are links into an old netbeans migration > project which indeed was a 'private' project on kenai, thus the 404 error > there. > And that makes sense too. Sorry, I thought there would be an HTML interface for SVN at that URL. > > There will be a couple of Sun/Oracle developed programs for internal > migration of the OOo data we will get or partly already got from Collabnet > into the kenai infrastructure, these will be based on similar stuff which > already has been used during the netbeans migration from Collabnet to kenai. > These programs and the original netbeans migration tools they will be based > on are indeed not open source. > > > The CSS stylesheets used there are well some kind of a mix of the current > OOo stylesheets and some new kenai specific stuff. > > A staging site for OOo on kenai is going to be set up soon but I can not > give any information on how soon that will be at the momment. > > Please keep us informed. I am somewhat concerned about (what appears > to be) the closed nature of this process. > > > > We try to be open as much as we can about what we are doing and open to > communication and participation where possible. The software which will be > used to actually migrate Collabnet internal datastructures into kenai > internal datastructures will not be open sourced though. But some > configuration files used by those migration programs will be made available > public and there content can also be discussed in public. You can find those > here: > https://svn.kenai.com/svn/ooo-migration~migration<https://svn.kenai.com/svn/ooo-migration%7Emigration> > (again use this with "svn checkout" not with your browser!). > We currently do not think it is necessary and possible to public reveal and > discuss technical details of the migration tools being currently worked on > or details about kenai´s internal data structures and internal database > layout etc. > > > Unfortunately besides some technical problems we are currently trying to > solve with those closed source migration tools to be used in the migration > process there´s not much news at the momment. Well acutally there may be > just one small information which might be interesting and that is that I > have recently adapted the OOo kenai theme to the recent changes on the > current OOo website and as thus adapted it to be using the new OOo logo, the > new current branding color scheme and stylesheet changes. Once we will have > a OOo kenai staging site you will be able to actually see this. > Thanks for the clarification and sorry for the misunderstanding(s) on my part. Keep up the good work :) Regards, Ivan.
