the question, sounds like, is not whether or not java5 will make it
into the next major release - that has always been a given, the
question is whether or not the next "major" release should simply be
1.3+java5 stuff ONLY which would allow it to be released very
quickly...

-igor


On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Martin Benda
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Wicket devs,
>
>  we are in the same situation too :-) For more than a year we are stuck to the
>  dead 2.0 branch and are still hopefully awaiting the new generified major
>  release. Old 2.0 with a few patches works quite fine but we won't probably
>  survive waiting another year for the 1.4/2.0 release...
>
>  So I'm totally +1 for adding only generics and other Java 1.5 features in the
>  next major release...
>
>  Regards,
>  Bendis
>
>  Dne Friday 14 of March 2008 22:14:56 Stefan Lindner napsal(a):
>
> > Dear Philip,
>  >
>  > we are in the same situation. Just starting a new project, we discussed to
>  > write a generic wrapper for all the wicket classes (Model, Component,
>  > etc.). We are waiting for a generic wicket wersion now for a year. Having a
>  > genierfied wicket version (let's call it 1.4M1 or 2.0M1) wohlg make us sooo
>  > happ.
>  >
>  > Migration to wicket 1.3 was impossible because of heavy generic usage all
>  > around our code. It's hard to imagine how to use wicket's model without
>  > generics.
>  >
>  > I totally agree with your opinion: "Quit punishing us 2.0 early adopters
>  > already".
>  >
>  > It is still a pleasuere to use OLD wicket 2.0 and it still works pretty
>  > stable. And I am sure it will be much more pleasure to work with a
>  > generified wicket 1.4/2.0
>  >
>  > Stefan
>  >
>  > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>  > Von: Philip A. Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Gesendet: Freitag, 14. März 2008 22:00
>  > An: dev@wicket.apache.org
>  > Betreff: Re: Planning Wicket Next Generation
>  >
>
>
> > ++++++++++1
>  >
>  > I've been waiting on generics since 2.0 was killed.  As an early adopter of
>  > 2.0, I've been struggling with a few projects that where written against
>  > 2.0.  So far, I've fought off the urge to convert to 1.3 simply because it
>  > doesn't make sense to rewrite for 1.3, then again for 1.4. Also, these
>  > projects make *heavy* use of generics and it would be a terrible pain to
>  > re-write them without.  I'd rather go straight to the generics version.
>  > Quit punishing us 2.0 early adopters already.
>  >
>  > Jeremy Thomerson wrote:
>  > > I definitely don't have any votes in this, but I have several production
>  > > apps running with Wicket, and use 1.5 / generics in all of them.  Has
>  > > there been any discussion of a faster release that ONLY includes
>  > > generics?  Last I remember, someone had the generics patch(es) basically
>  > > done, and just needed to apply them.
>  > >
>  > > I would really like to see generics soon, but if they get put in with all
>  > > the other features for 1.4, it would be 6-9 months (at least) before I
>  > > could use them.
>  > >
>  > > Jeremy Thomerson
>  > > -- sent from a wireless device
>  > >
>  > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > From: "Johan Compagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > > To: dev@wicket.apache.org
>  > > Sent: 3/14/08 4:23 PM
>  > > Subject: Re: Planning Wicket Next Generation
>  > >
>  > > Its not that revolutionairy.
>  > > For example if 1.4 was just 1.3+generics then if your project like
>  > > vocus thats already on 1.5 it would be a drop in replacement. So api
>  > > and 'feature' wise not much has happend then, only easy of development
>  > > (for most not all are fans ;))
>  > >
>  > > On 3/14/08, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >> On 3/14/08, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >>> is the next release an evolution or revolution? :) i think first we
>  > >>> need to make a list of all major things we want to go into it, and
>  > >>> then decide.
>  > >>
>  > >> I think it counts as revolutionary: abandoning Java 1.4 is
>  > >> revolutionary I think.
>  > >>
>  > >>>  >  2 - are we going to timebox the milestones, or plan on features
>  > >>>  > added?
>  > >>>
>  > >>> personally i think we should come up with a list of all the features
>  > >>> we want, throw them into a backlog, and timebox it.
>  > >>
>  > >> See the wishlist:
>  > >> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wicket-14-wish-list.html
>  > >>
>  > >>>  >  3 - how many milestones do we plan?
>  > >>>
>  > >>> id like 6. 1-4 dev, 5-6 stabalizaton. we were never able to get away
>  > >>> with just one beta release before, most bugs are found after we put
>  > >>> out the first beta...so i dont expect a lot of bugs to be found
>  > >>> until  the last dev milestone goes out.
>  > >>
>  > >> Fine with me.
>  > >>
>  > >>>  >  4 - which features go into each milestone?
>  > >>>
>  > >>> what are the features? :)
>  > >>>
>  > >> :D
>  > >>
>  > >> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wicket-14-wish-list.html
>  > >>
>  > >> Martijn
>  > >>
>  > >> --
>  > >> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst Apache Wicket 1.3.1
>  > >> is released Get it now:
>  > >> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.1
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