I do not see any problem here.
We do not distribute any non-ASL2 code or binaries!
The snippet in pom.xml and logback.xml are ASL2 as being part of
wicket-archetype-quickstart, so the user can do anything with them,
including replacing them with whatever (s)he finds better.

Actually I believe Logback is far more used than Log4j in business
applications.

"Promoting" JUL would be the worst we can do.

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> EPL is compatible with APLv2, just need to be added to NOTICE.
> I mean the files we are distributing doesn't contain any binaries.
>
> Logback binaries appears only after compilation of generated
> quick-start .... nothing illegal.
>
> Will check java util logging in the beginning of next week ....
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Tobias Soloschenko
> <tobiassolosche...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > What do you mean by choose any license?
> >
> > If you put in the logback xml it is required to add the logback
> dependency to enable the logging - logback is EPL / LGPL so it is
> incompatible to Apache license v2.
> >
> > So the user is required to remove everything first and add a logging
> with MIT or any other non-restrict license.
> >
> > To generate something with a restricted license is also not the target
> solution we should go for.
> >
> > What about java utils logging? SLF4J has also an adapter for this and
> maybe we can prevent the memory leak by this.
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > Tobias
> >
> >> Am 14.01.2018 um 05:58 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> I would support any decision here :)
> >>
> >> From my point of view app with in-build "memory leak" shouldn't be
> generated.
> >> Generated quick-start project is being owned by the user. And he/she
> >> can choose any license :)
> >> We can add NOTICE to generated project, not sure if this is required
> .....
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Tobias Soloschenko
> >> <tobiassolosche...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> I would also not enforce user to take a LGPL dependency. For Log4j you
> can use SLF4J adapter and also logback if you finally want to but you don’t
> have to.
> >>>
> >>> +1 to revert.
> >>>
> >>> kind regards
> >>>
> >>> Tobias
> >>>
> >>>> Am 14.01.2018 um 04:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com
> >:
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually it is not being distributed :)
> >>>> It is in the pom only, It only "distributed" after final project,
> >>>> generated on client side, is being built
> >>>> Should I add reference to NOTICE file?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 4:08 AM, Martijn Dashorst
> >>>> <martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Please note that logback is LGPL 2.1/EPL licensed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LGPL 2.1 cannot be distributed with our code. EPL only as binary, and
> >>>>> properly attributed in the NOTICE file:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Martijn
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 4:20 AM, solomax <g...@git.apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> GitHub user solomax opened a pull request:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   https://github.com/apache/wicket/pull/257
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   [WICKET-6518] Log4j is replaced with logback
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can merge this pull request into a Git repository by running:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   $ git pull https://github.com/apache/wicket
> WICKET-6518-quickstart-logback
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alternatively you can review and apply these changes as the patch
> at:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   https://github.com/apache/wicket/pull/257.patch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To close this pull request, make a commit to your master/trunk
> branch
> >>>>>> with (at least) the following in the commit message:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   This closes #257
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----
> >>>>>> commit cfd6a55fc9d613d4412a004efcc8e06d6ac1d73d
> >>>>>> Author: Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@...>
> >>>>>> Date:   2018-01-13T03:18:56Z
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   [WICKET-6518] Log4j is replaced with logback
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best:
> http://wicketinaction.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> WBR
> >>>> Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>

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