Ant(hony), I can't think of much to write here in response that I didn't already write in my lengthy prior email. If you have content you'd like to see, add it (if you are still a WS committer) or tee up a patch in a JIRA.
--benson On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project > wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i > don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay > homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history > page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing > WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved > out or been retired. > > ...ant > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: >> <meta> >> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are certainly >> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The >> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same. >> >> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much coffee >> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :) >> </meta> >> >> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want >> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've >> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the >> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to move >> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within >> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and website >> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to get >> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing >> rather than who's asking. >> >> Thanks, >> --Glen >> >> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate >>> amount of >>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a >>> TLP. >>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able >>> to copy >>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you >>> guys do >>> for web content). >>> >>> >>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a WORD >>> about >>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That >>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members. >>> >>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the >>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history. >>> >>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some >>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours >>> and >>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this >>> project! >>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish >>> for that to be the case. >>> >>> Sanjiva. >>> -- >>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; >>> http://www.opensource.lk/ >>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/ >>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/ >>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/ >>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ >>> >>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ >>> >> >
