Hi All,
I did a bulk user import to the tenant using a csv file today.it worked
fine.users were added to the user store correctly. But there are some
problems remaining.

- When performing a bulk user import only username and password are
provided .No First Name,Last Name. in the Appfactory team ui Fname Lname
and email are required details
- since  user registration page is not provided , how can we get Fname
Lname of the user?

Considering these facts , can't we get user details upon the first login of
the user.
WDYT?



On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Amila Maha Arachchi <ami...@wso2.com> wrote:

> Sanjiva, Sameera, Asanka and myself had a chat regarding this use case and
> following are the notes of it for others' information.
>
>
>    - It is not necessary to invite anyone to be a user in your tenant. If
>    you are the tenant admin, you can simply add the user to your tenant and
>    inform that user.
>       - For an internal deployment, adding users is not necessary since
>       we'll be pointing to the organization's LDAP. So, all the users are 
> there.
>       We only have to assign them to different apps.
>       - For the cloud, if you want to add someone, you simply add him/her
>       and let her know the credentials.
>          - If you want you can have a feature of notifying that user via
>          email. But this is not needed for the nearest release.
>       - Assigning users (amila) from other tenant (foo.com) to your
>    tenant (bar.com)
>    - Although we have agreed to create a user in my tenant amila@bar.comto 
> achieve this scenario, Sanjiva wants to do this via resource level
>       permissions.
>       - So, this feature will not be available for the nearest release.
>       When we start addressing this feature, we'll have to figure out how to 
> do
>       it.
>
>
>    - Also discussed about OT users to login via a community tenant (this
>    has been already discussed in the previous review)
>       - We'll use a separate login page for this. When we create this
>       community tenant, we'll have to copy a user-mgt.xml which points to the 
> OT
>       LDAP.
>
> Regards,
> AmilaM.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Sameera Perera <samee...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> The scenario I described is based on that I'm the first 'sameera' from
>> wso2.com signing up for your tenant. Other sameera(s) have not signed up
>> for the tenant but, they exist within the organization with wso2.comemail 
>> addresses. This is a probable use case in the cloud as well as when
>> an LDAP is not linked in a private deployment; i.e. aPaaS/AF doesn't
>> know about IDs that exist outside of it's database.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Asanka Dissanayake <asan...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Smaeera,
>>> Please find my comments in line.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Sameera Perera <samee...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Asanka,
>>>> While this is possible, I have concerns about doing this. E.g.
>>>> You invite me to wso2.com tenant.
>>>> When I follow the confirmation link, I have an option to provide my own
>>>> username. So, I pick 'sameera'.
>>>>
>>> When you select a user name it will be assigned depending on the
>>> availability. if there is a sameera in wso2.com already you are not
>>> allowed to select it.
>>>
>>>> Now my tenant login is sameeraATwso2.com (where as my email is
>>>> sameerapATwso2.com). Now, if actual sameeraATwso2.com wants to signup, he
>>>> needs to use an alternate address.
>>>>
>>>> There are few solutions to this. We can discuss f2f.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Asanka Dissanayake <asan...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> @ sameera,
>>>>> got the point. thanks for the clarification.
>>>>> we have an alternative. But I don't know whether it is expensive.In
>>>>> the tenant registration page we allow user to choose user name for the
>>>>> tenant admin.Can't we allow same thing for the user .
>>>>> It's like this,
>>>>> When a user is invited as a user of the tenant , he gets an email
>>>>> which contains the confirmation link.upon the click he is redirected to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> page for user registration where he can choose a user name . depending on
>>>>> the availability suppose he selected user name as "asanka88" for the 
>>>>> tenant
>>>>> foo. Then his login name would be "asank...@foo.com".
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> @ gayan,
>>>>> I think answer for your questionis in the above answer.
>>>>> cheers!!!
>>>>> Asanka D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Gayan Dhanushka <gay...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Asanka,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to make a point that this is different from something
>>>>>> like inviting an existing user to an app as a develpoer by the app owner.
>>>>>> In that case the user is already there. As per my thinking this is a 
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> different scenario. I would like to know whether this user is already
>>>>>> registered under the same organization, so that adding a user to a tenant
>>>>>> points to adding a user who is already there in an organization to the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> organization's appfac tenant?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> GayanD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Sameera Perera <samee...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally the scenario you describe should work. But, if you add
>>>>>>> x...@bar.com to your foo.com domain, how do you know to log him in to
>>>>>>> foo.com from the login page? What if bar.com is a tenant as well?
>>>>>>> How do you know where to log him in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Asanka Dissanayake <
>>>>>>> asan...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> @ shiro
>>>>>>>> #1 and #2 already there. will look in to #3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @sameera,
>>>>>>>> so in that case, we are not gonna support private email addresses.
>>>>>>>> For example I need to use aPaaS and create an organization called foo, 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> i dont't have @foo.com email adresses. I want to add users to the
>>>>>>>> tenant with their private email addresses. I think this scenario fails 
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> we put a restriction on the email address.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I am missing the point can you please explain me the reason for
>>>>>>>> not allowing use arbitrary email addresses?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers!!
>>>>>>>> Asanka D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Sameera Perera 
>>>>>>>> <samee...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Asanka,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  For the cloud, can you confirm that we will not support adding
>>>>>>>>> user with any arbitrary email address for this phase?
>>>>>>>>> I.e. Only users with @tenantdomain email addresses can be added.
>>>>>>>>> Can you confirm?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Asanka Dissanayake <
>>>>>>>>> asan...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> User story for adding a user to a tenant is as follows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1- tenant admin enter the email of the user(not in the LDAP yet)
>>>>>>>>>> and select a role.
>>>>>>>>>> 2- then tenant admin invite the user.
>>>>>>>>>> 3- then user receives an email containing confirmation link.
>>>>>>>>>> 4- upon the confirmation user is added to the tenant domain.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to the offline chat had with Dimuthu, we came to a
>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that there is no point of adding a user to the tenant 
>>>>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>>>>> before sending the email unless it's a user within the 
>>>>>>>>>> organization.But
>>>>>>>>>> when it comes to cloud, any one wouldn't like to be a developer,qa 
>>>>>>>>>> of an
>>>>>>>>>> application without his permission/confirmation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please give comments on the above user story. I need to get this
>>>>>>>>>> finalized to start implementations. Quick reply s are highly 
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers!!
>>>>>>>>>> Asanka D
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> *Asanka Dissanayake
>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer*
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sameera Perera*
>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Cloud Technology Group
>>>>>>>>> gtalk: samee...@wso2.com
>>>>>>>>> *WSO2, Inc.* <http://wso2.com/>
>>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> *Asanka Dissanayake
>>>>>>>> Software Engineer*
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>>>>>>>> *
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sameera Perera*
>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Cloud Technology Group
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gayan Dhanushka
>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobile : 0716662327
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
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