I wanted to share this section of my recent report to the board (I've also gotten permission to share the board's response)
> A discussion is currently under way regarding the possibility of> merging the > recently open sourced "Curator" source base from> Netflix. These are client > implementations of ZooKeeper "recipes"> (e.g. leadership election, group > membership, etc...) which simplify> the act of using ZooKeeper in client side > applications.>> The authors of Curator are unwilling to join the incubator, > this is> based on their past experience as well as some of the ongoing > issues> they are seeing wrt projects entering the incubator. They have> > expressed a preference to come in either as a subproject or as a> separate > release artifact of the TLP. to which the board responded: Doug Cutting (chairman): + Long-term, do you think that Curator will have an + indepdendent community from Zookeeper? If so, then it + ought to enter through the Incubator. If not then the + code might still enter through the incubator for + resolution of IP issues, but then transfer relatively + quickly to live under the Zookeeper PMC. Or the + Zookeeper PMC could directly adopt the code, although + you might not immediately add its committers to the + project but rather have them first contribute patches + through the normal process until their community merit + is established. Sam Ruby: + suggested that the "short form" of the incubator's IP clearance process would be appropriate if Zookeeper directly adopts this code. The short form can be found here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html I personally still feel that incubator is the best place for starting this. I have a good track record as a podling mentor and I feel strongly that we could quickly/successfully incubate this project and graduate (given there's strong leadership by the Curator committers themselves). Patrick On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jordan Zimmerman <jzimmer...@netflix.com> wrote: > Any other comments on this? If not, what should the next steps be? > > -JZ > > On 12/15/11 10:07 AM, "Jordan Zimmerman" <jzimmer...@netflix.com> wrote: > >>I'd be happy to have Ted as both committer and mentor. I'd be happy to >>have Patrick and/or as mentor as well. >> >>-JZ >> >>On 12/14/11 7:03 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Flavio Junqueira <f...@yahoo-inc.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jordan, Here is some feedback. I like the proposal and it makes >>>>sense >>>> to have such a project as either sub-project or incubator. I have a few >>>> concerns, though: >>>> >>>> 1- I haven't been following closely the development of the recipes, but >>>>I >>>> wonder if it really makes sense to deprecate the current ones in favor >>>>of >>>> Curator's, or if it is a better idea to keep multiple versions in the >>>>case >>>> of duplicates. People in the community have spent time on the current >>>> recipes, so I don't like very much the idea of dropping the current >>>>recipes >>>> without some evidence that the community accepts it. Note that I'm not >>>> saying that deprecating is not the right thing to do, I'm simply saying >>>> that we need to make sure that the community agrees. >>>> >>> >>>I agree that not deprecating is a good thing. We could mark them with >>>annotations that indicate that we haven't heard yet from a community of >>>users. If we don't hear about significant usage, then deprecation might >>>be >>>warranted. >>> >>>2- The set of committers needs to be more diverse. Perhaps it would be >>>> easier to find more committers if you follow the incubation process, >>>>given >>>> that typically people sign up for committership once you post a >>>>proposal >>>> there. I wonder how many other people on this list would like to >>>>volunteer >>>> to become a committer of Curator, though. I like the project, but >>>> unfortunately I don't have the cycles to do it. >>>> >>> >>>I would volunteer. >>> >>> >>>> 3- If Curator becomes a sub-project of ZooKeeper, then you need at >>>>least >>>> one mentor. Is there anyone who would like to sign up to mentor >>>>Curator? >>>> >>> >>>Likewise. >> >> >
