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Flavio Junqueira commented on ZOOKEEPER-1697:
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I'm not sure if you're saying that my statement conflicts with the definition 
of initLimit in the docs. If followers are not able to sync with the leader, 
isn't it the case that the prospective leader will not have a quorum and will 
drop leadership? In any case, I was reading the code, not the docs. 

I don't think the two ways of configuring you're suggesting are equivalent 
because we use initLimit in a number of other places (Leader#lead() while 
waiting for a quorum of supporters, for example) and I'm not saying that we 
should replace that initLimit with initLimit + syncLimit for cases other than 
ack bookkeeping. Actually, I'm saying that we need syncLimit on top of 
initLimit for the first ack in LearnerHandler independent of how you choose the 
value for initLimit. This observation comes from the fact that between start up 
and the second ack we should allow syncLimit ticks. Say that the leader takes 
initLimit to form a quorum of supporters. Once the LeanerHandler starts 
processing messages, it has only a tick to update tickOfNextAckDeadline before 
the learner is considered out of sync with the patch you're proposing, right?  
                
> large snapshots can cause continuous quorum failure
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: ZOOKEEPER-1697
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1697
>             Project: ZooKeeper
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: server
>    Affects Versions: 3.4.3, 3.5.0
>            Reporter: Patrick Hunt
>            Assignee: Patrick Hunt
>            Priority: Critical
>             Fix For: 3.5.0, 3.4.6
>
>         Attachments: ZOOKEEPER-1697_branch34.patch, 
> ZOOKEEPER-1697_branch34.patch, ZOOKEEPER-1697.patch, ZOOKEEPER-1697.patch
>
>
> I keep seeing this on the leader:
> 2013-04-30 01:18:39,754 INFO
> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.Leader: Shutdown called
> java.lang.Exception: shutdown Leader! reason: Only 0 followers, need 2
> at org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.Leader.shutdown(Leader.java:447)
> at org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.Leader.lead(Leader.java:422)
> at org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.QuorumPeer.run(QuorumPeer.java:753)
> The followers are downloading the snapshot when this happens, and are
> trying to do their first ACK to the leader, the ack fails with broken
> pipe.
> In this case the snapshots are large and the config has increased the
> initLimit. syncLimit is small - 10 or so with ticktime of 2000. Note
> this is 3.4.3 with ZOOKEEPER-1521 applied.
> I originally speculated that
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1521 might be related.
> I thought I might have broken something for this environment. That
> doesn't look to be the case.
> As it looks now it seems that 1521 didn't go far enough. The leader
> verifies that all followers have ACK'd to the leader within the last
> "syncLimit" time period. This runs all the time in the background on
> the leader to identify the case where a follower drops. In this case
> the followers take so long to load the snapshot that this check fails
> the very first time, as a result the leader drops (not enough ack'd
> followers w/in the sync limit) and re-election happens. This repeats
> forever. (the above error)
> this is the call:
> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.LearnerHandler.synced() that's at
> odds.
> look at setting of tickOfLastAck in
> org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.LearnerHandler.run()
> It's not set until the follower first acks - in this case I can see
> that the followers are not getting to the ack prior to the leader
> shutting down due to the error log above.
> It seems that sync() should probably use the init limit until the
> first ack comes in from the follower. I also see that while tickOfLastAck and 
> leader.self.tick is shared btw two threads there is no synchronization of the 
> shared resources.

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