From my point of view, it’s a nice feature. I can’t imagine why ZK wouldn’t add 
it. If there are additional implications for the future those can be dealt with 
in the future. My personal main goal is to eliminate a benefit of etcd over 
ZooKeeper. 

-Jordan

> On Aug 29, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Camille Fournier <cami...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm happy to take back up the conversation of why have this at all.
> I proposed this feature after doing some personal research into etcd for a
> talk about a year and a half ago. I found that one of the interesting
> features of etcd was that you could have clients enable ephemeral data
> without sticky sessions to the server. This is a popular feature in etcd
> and I can understand the desire to have a more lightweight way to create
> such nodes.
> 
> I suppose I will kick it back to you, what are you afraid of vis a vis
> usage?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Flavio Junqueira <f...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> I've left some time back a request to have it somewhere so that I could
>> leave some specific review comments and asked a question about the API
>> changes.
>> 
>> I'd like to understand at a high level what we are trying to achieve. For
>> example, the description of the jira mentions that the goal is to enable
>> nodes to expire without relying on sessions. Does it imply that this is for
>> applications that will rely purely on local sessions? Should we provide a
>> way of not having sessions at all, global or local?
>> 
>> My sense is that this is a great feature and I'm happy to see a patch and
>> discussion, but I feel that we need to discuss it further so that we
>> understand how this is going to be used. At least, I'd like to understand
>> it better.
>> 
>> -Flavio
>> 
>>> On 29 Aug 2016, at 13:11, Jordan Zimmerman <jor...@jordanzimmerman.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Per Benjamin: "i'm fine letting it go in as is"
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Camille! It's fine with me, although notice that Flavio has been
>>>> providing feedback and has some concerns. Also there is a pending issue
>>>> (testing) identified by Ben most recently and afaict not yet resolved.
>>>> 
>>>> Patrick
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Camille Fournier <cami...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK I'm the slacker that proposed us doing this in the first place and
>> I'm
>>>>> THRILLED that you have done it Jordan, thank you so much.
>>>>> Pat, I can review and merge, unless you are concerned with
>> interference on
>>>>> other issues. LMK.
>>>>> 
>>>>> C
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jordan. This looks like a great new feature, but I'm afraid I'm
>>>>> focused
>>>>>> on other things atm. I don't have much time after work/home
>> currently, as
>>>>>> such I've been focused on other priorities; 1) supporting existing
>>>>>> users/issues in 3.4, and 2) trying to get 3.5 branch to production
>> ready.
>>>>>> There are already a number of features queued up in that branch (3.5)
>>>>> which
>>>>>> we need to get out to folks. Thanks for your patience.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>>>>>> jor...@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So - what’s a guy got to do to get this merged?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Jordan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>> This looks really handy for implementing transient data structures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:53 AM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>>>>>>>> jor...@jordanzimmerman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any chance of getting https://issues.apache.org/
>>>>>>> jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-2169
>>>>>>>>> merged? It has:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * A patch that’s been reviewed
>>>>>>>>> * 7 Votes
>>>>>>>>> * 15 Watchers
>>>>>>>>> * Will help ZooKeeper compete against etcd/consul
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Jordan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Andy
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
>>>>>> Hein
>>>>>>>> (via Tom White)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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