Hello Tom,

+1 on the initiative, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

If I understand correctly, there will be no disclosed security issues which
cannot be found with open source static analyzers.

Regards,
Norbert


On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:23 AM Szalay-Bekő Máté <szalay.beko.m...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Guys,
>
> In general I like the idea, but unfortunately I can not really participate
> (either in the coding or in the review) as I have a few important projects
> close to deadline at the moment.
>
> My only concern is with the security bugs, which I don't like to be openly
> reported before publishing a release with the fix. But for any other kind
> of bugfixes / improvements, I am very positive with the initiative.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Mate
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 07:06 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev> wrote:
>
> > Enrico et al,
> >
> > Are there other thoughts on this?  It would be great to get setup before
> > the bash actually begins.  Enrico, lacking other voices would you like to
> > make a final call?
> >
> > -Tom
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:30 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Tom,
> > > Personally I am +1 with this proposal. Thanks for your clarifications.
> > >
> > > But we should ear opinions from other people in this list
> > >
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > Il giorno mer 23 set 2020 alle ore 23:51 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev
> >
> > ha
> > > scritto:
> > >
> > > > Enrico,
> > > >
> > > > On the topic security issues and reporting:  Muse's default
> > configuration
> > > > is open source tools and here it is run on open source projects.  The
> > > > results are thus already available publicly (in this case from FSB,
> > > Infer,
> > > > and Error Prone).  Muse doesn't post anything to GitHub except in the
> > > case
> > > > of pull requests and then only if the bug is deemed to have been
> > > > "introduced" as part of the PR - meaning it shouldn't be a
> > vulnerability
> > > in
> > > > currently shipped software.
> > > >
> > > > If there are desires or proposals about more control over bug reports
> > in
> > > a
> > > > convenient, configurable, manner then we'd really like to dig in and
> > hear
> > > > how to help.  In case there is more discussion on this point I'm
> CCing
> > > > Andrew who leads Muse's product design.
> > > >
> > > > -Tom
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:09 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Il Mer 23 Set 2020, 19:02 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev> ha
> scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Enrico,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Muse App requires two main abilities.  First is events, such
> as
> > > > > > notification when pull requests are opened or updated.  Second is
> > > > > > permission to post comments (which is always possible for humans
> > but
> > > > more
> > > > > > tightly controlled when the poster authenticates as a github
> > > > > application).
> > > > > > The repository being public has allowed us to run the app and
> > observe
> > > > > > ErrorProne, Infer, and FindSecBugs all run out of the box and
> > without
> > > > > > custom configuration.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Makes sense.
> > > > >
> > > > > One last question from my side
> > > > > What about security issues?
> > > > > Our policy is to have them reported to
> secur...@zookeeper.apache.org
> > > > > before
> > > > > public disclosure
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Enrico
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:35 AM Enrico Olivelli <
> > eolive...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Il Mer 23 Set 2020, 00:44 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev> ha
> > > scritto:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Zookeeper Developers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As part of our sponsorship of ApacheCon, our company MuseDev
> is
> > > > > doing a
> > > > > > > Bug
> > > > > > > > Bash for select Apache projects. We'll bring members of the
> > > > ApacheCon
> > > > > > > > community together to find and fix a range of security and
> > > > > performance
> > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > during the conference, and gameify the experience with
> teams, a
> > > > > > > > leaderboard, and prizes. The bash is open to everyone whether
> > > > > attending
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > conference or not, and our whole dev team will also be
> > > > participating
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > help fix as many bugs as we can.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We're seeding the bug list with results from Muse, our code
> > > > analysis
> > > > > > > > platform, which runs as a Github App and comments on possible
> > > bugs
> > > > as
> > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > of the pull request workflow.  Here's an example of what it
> > looks
> > > > > like:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > https://github.com/curl/curl/pull/5971#discussion_r490252196
> > > > > > > > <https://github.com/curl/curl/pull/5971>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We explored a number of Apache projects and are reaching out
> > > > because
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > analysis through Muse found some interesting bugs that could
> be
> > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > during the Bash.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We're writing to see if you'd be interested in having your
> > > project
> > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > in the Bash. Everything is set up on our end, and if you're
> > > > > interested,
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > would need you to say yes on this listserv, and we’ll work
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > Infrastructure team to grant Muse access to your Github
> mirror.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is a public repo, which kind of access does it need?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enrico
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We'll then
> > > > > > > > make sure it's all set-up and ready for the Bash. And of
> > course,
> > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > on the project is most welcome to join the Bash and help us
> > smash
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > > bugs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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