Norbert,

Yes, you understand that correctly.  And those analyzers are FindSecBugs,
Error Prone and Infer.  All open source and in moderate to wide use
already.  Only find sec bugs is security specific - Infer and Error Prone
might find security bugs but they are more general purpose in nature.

-Tom

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:43 PM Norbert Kalmar <nkal...@cloudera.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hello Tom,
>
> +1 on the initiative, thanks for bringing this to our attention.
>
> If I understand correctly, there will be no disclosed security issues which
> cannot be found with open source static analyzers.
>
> Regards,
> Norbert
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:23 AM Szalay-Bekő Máté <
> szalay.beko.m...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Guys,
> >
> > In general I like the idea, but unfortunately I can not really
> participate
> > (either in the coding or in the review) as I have a few important
> projects
> > close to deadline at the moment.
> >
> > My only concern is with the security bugs, which I don't like to be
> openly
> > reported before publishing a release with the fix. But for any other kind
> > of bugfixes / improvements, I am very positive with the initiative.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mate
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 07:06 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev> wrote:
> >
> > > Enrico et al,
> > >
> > > Are there other thoughts on this?  It would be great to get setup
> before
> > > the bash actually begins.  Enrico, lacking other voices would you like
> to
> > > make a final call?
> > >
> > > -Tom
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:30 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > > Personally I am +1 with this proposal. Thanks for your
> clarifications.
> > > >
> > > > But we should ear opinions from other people in this list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Enrico
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno mer 23 set 2020 alle ore 23:51 Tom DuBuisson <
> to...@muse.dev
> > >
> > > ha
> > > > scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > Enrico,
> > > > >
> > > > > On the topic security issues and reporting:  Muse's default
> > > configuration
> > > > > is open source tools and here it is run on open source projects.
> The
> > > > > results are thus already available publicly (in this case from FSB,
> > > > Infer,
> > > > > and Error Prone).  Muse doesn't post anything to GitHub except in
> the
> > > > case
> > > > > of pull requests and then only if the bug is deemed to have been
> > > > > "introduced" as part of the PR - meaning it shouldn't be a
> > > vulnerability
> > > > in
> > > > > currently shipped software.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there are desires or proposals about more control over bug
> reports
> > > in
> > > > a
> > > > > convenient, configurable, manner then we'd really like to dig in
> and
> > > hear
> > > > > how to help.  In case there is more discussion on this point I'm
> > CCing
> > > > > Andrew who leads Muse's product design.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:09 PM Enrico Olivelli <
> eolive...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Il Mer 23 Set 2020, 19:02 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev> ha
> > scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enrico,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Muse App requires two main abilities.  First is events,
> such
> > as
> > > > > > > notification when pull requests are opened or updated.  Second
> is
> > > > > > > permission to post comments (which is always possible for
> humans
> > > but
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > tightly controlled when the poster authenticates as a github
> > > > > > application).
> > > > > > > The repository being public has allowed us to run the app and
> > > observe
> > > > > > > ErrorProne, Infer, and FindSecBugs all run out of the box and
> > > without
> > > > > > > custom configuration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Makes sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One last question from my side
> > > > > > What about security issues?
> > > > > > Our policy is to have them reported to
> > secur...@zookeeper.apache.org
> > > > > > before
> > > > > > public disclosure
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enrico
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:35 AM Enrico Olivelli <
> > > eolive...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Il Mer 23 Set 2020, 00:44 Tom DuBuisson <to...@muse.dev> ha
> > > > scritto:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Zookeeper Developers,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As part of our sponsorship of ApacheCon, our company
> MuseDev
> > is
> > > > > > doing a
> > > > > > > > Bug
> > > > > > > > > Bash for select Apache projects. We'll bring members of the
> > > > > ApacheCon
> > > > > > > > > community together to find and fix a range of security and
> > > > > > performance
> > > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > > during the conference, and gameify the experience with
> > teams, a
> > > > > > > > > leaderboard, and prizes. The bash is open to everyone
> whether
> > > > > > attending
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > conference or not, and our whole dev team will also be
> > > > > participating
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > help fix as many bugs as we can.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We're seeding the bug list with results from Muse, our code
> > > > > analysis
> > > > > > > > > platform, which runs as a Github App and comments on
> possible
> > > > bugs
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > of the pull request workflow.  Here's an example of what it
> > > looks
> > > > > > like:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/curl/curl/pull/5971#discussion_r490252196
> > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/curl/curl/pull/5971>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We explored a number of Apache projects and are reaching
> out
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > analysis through Muse found some interesting bugs that
> could
> > be
> > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > during the Bash.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We're writing to see if you'd be interested in having your
> > > > project
> > > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > > in the Bash. Everything is set up on our end, and if you're
> > > > > > interested,
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > would need you to say yes on this listserv, and we’ll work
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > Infrastructure team to grant Muse access to your Github
> > mirror.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is a public repo, which kind of access does it need?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Enrico
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We'll then
> > > > > > > > > make sure it's all set-up and ready for the Bash. And of
> > > course,
> > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > on the project is most welcome to join the Bash and help us
> > > smash
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > bugs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Tom
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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