On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:51:00PM +0000, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > >> <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> > >>> We have such special protections for the kernel (signing), firefox
> > (trademarks),
> > >>> and for bootloaders (signing again), and some packages which don't
> > consider
> > >>> the fedora repo the canonical location for sources.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Hold the phone! When did we allow packages to not consider the Fedora
> > >> Dist-Git the canonical location for sources?
> > >
> > > For fedora-release the idea is that "upsteam" has a copy of the spec
> > > file, and the changes are supposed to be copied both ways. But I think
> > > there's no disagreement with retiring "upstream", so this issue should
> > > be moot soon (independently of the other stuff being discussed).
> >
> > Well, this thread has had posts from 1 of the 4 maintainers.
> > I don't think it would be appropriate to change the package workflow
> > without input from the others.
> >
> > IMHO, if the problem here is that preset requests aren't being processed
> > quickly enough, I'd be happy to add at least you (and any others that
> > showed over time they understand how presets work and can review PRs) to
> > review, create and merge PRs and build and push updates.
> >
> > I don't know that anything else dramatic needs to happen here...
> >
> >
> Well, the merging to the upstream repo is only the start of the process.
> There's also a really awkward creation of a new tarball that has to be
> imported over in dist-git, then the spec file updated, etc.
> 
> What I think Zbigniew is asking for is the ability to more quickly get
> *builds* including preset updates. Right now, even when the merges to the
> upstream repo happen quickly, it's often measured in weeks how long it
> takes to actually get a build of the Fedora RPM.

Exactly.

Zbyszek
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