On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 12:56 -0700, stan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:56:07 -0700
> Adam Williamson <adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 21:51 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:  
> > > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
> > > > appropriate updates for software with the default console tool
> > > > for the relevant software type (e.g. default console package
> > > > manager). This includes downloading of packages to be
> > > > installed/updated."  
> > > 
> > > +1 in theory. The wording is a bit awkward, though -- it sounds like
> > > "updates" are things we must be able to install, remove, and install
> > > again. Why not just:
> > > 
> > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and update
> > > software with the default console tool for the relevant software
> > > type (e.g. default console package manager). This includes
> > > downloading of packages to be installed/updated."  
> > 
> > We already have a thread about exactly this wording problem. :P The
> > reason I didn't go for that wording is that it loses the 'appropriate'
> > concept, which is important and was specifically included. It appears
> > that people are having trouble parsing the intended sense of the
> > wording I chose - there are three actions, "install", "remove" and
> > "install appropriate updates for", all of which affect "software" - so
> > I'm trying to think of another way to put it.
> 
> Maybe:
> 
> "The installed system must be able to install software, remove software,
> and install appropriate software updates with the default console tool
> for the relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager).
> This includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated."

I like that! Let's go with it. Thanks.
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