On Mi, 21.12.22 14:00, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) 
wrote:

> > And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to
> > firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for
> > the journal.  Luckily this is rarely a problem in practice because /boot
> > is rarely written to.
>
> The journal is very useful when writing kernels there.

how so? iirc grub's fs drivers can't even replay the journal?

if you drop single files into vfat by creating a file under a random
name, then writing the file linearly in full, then syncing, and then
renaming it to the final name (and syncing again) you should get
equal/better guarantees from the fs, in a way actually compatible with
the pre-boot env.

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering, Berlin
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