On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 03:41:26PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 09:52:44AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Conceptually -object and object_add/object_del should be sufficient
> >> > for essentially all QEMU configuration....if only we ported all our
> >> > internal custom backends/devices/etc to QOM. That is of course a big
> >> > job which is why it hasn't happened.
> >> >
> >> > This series started with the premise that the monitor is one of the
> >> > easier areas to convert since we have no more than three classes,
> >> > a common base, and QMP and HMP subclasses[1]. So why not give it a
> >> > go and thus unlock the ability to dynamically create/delete monitors
> >> > in QMP/HMP.
> >> >
> >> > This series does the conversion in a great many small steps to better
> >> > understand the implications at each stage.
> >> >
> >> > The high level outcome of this series is
> >> >
> >> >  * HMP and QMP monitors are QOM objects, 'monitor-hmp' and
> >> >    'monitor-qmp' respectively
> >> >
> >> >  * Both can be cold plugged and hot plugged. QMP only, can
> >> >    also be hot unplugged.
> >> >
> >> >  * '-mon' is obsolete, deprecated and replaced by '-object',
> >> >    but -monitor, -qmp and kept  as high level syntax sugar
> >> 
> >> Possible additional work: change monitor_parse() to build a
> >> MonitorOptions instead of a QemuOpts, so it call monitor_new() directly
> >> instead of via monitor_new_opts().  Observation, not a demand.
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >  * QMP gains a concept of "close-action" which makes it
> >> >    possible to mark a monitor for auto-delete.
> >> 
> >> I'm not quite convinced this is warranted.  I'd like to hear more about
> >> use cases.
> >
> > Replied about that inline to the patch. IMHO without this facility
> > the series does not fully address the needs of systemd that motivated
> > the original patches:
> >
> >   https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2026-04/msg01349.html
> >
> >> Is libvirt going to make use of it?
> >
> > This wasn't motivated by libvirt's needs, but indeed it could be
> > useful for libvirt. Currently if apps want to access QMP, they
> > need to use libvirt's QMP passthrough, which means they need
> > special client code to talk to libvirt APIs.
> >
> > With this libvirt could dynamically add a monitor, with auto
> > close, open it and pass the open FD back to the client app.
> > libvirt would not need to watch for when the client app is
> > gone as dropping the FD would cleanup the monitor.
> 
> Alright, that's fair.  The management application doesn't spawn
> something that wants a dedicated monitor, it makes one for a client.
> 
> Would this fit into a commit message somewhere?

Sure, it fits in the commit message for the auto-delete patch.


With regards,
Daniel
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