lol, really? you think developing own libraries sucks? arent you
developed something really BIG?
On 06.11.2013 23:47, kher...@khertan.net wrote:
An analogy with boat about apps including his own libs :
https://mobile.twitter.com/usmanm/status/388407160159211520/photo/1?screen_name=usmanm#!/usmanm/status/388407160159211520/photo/1?screen_name=usmanm
:p
--
Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.netLe 06/11/13 18:33 Marcin M. a écrit :
And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends...
--Marcin
2013/11/6 Marcin M. <marmistrz...@gmail.com>
If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what bad
can happen?
-- Marcin
2013/11/6 Martin Grimme <martin.gri...@gmail.com>
Hi,
2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 <guoyunhebr...@gmail.com>:
i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many
problems.
I think the same. While having deps and libraries and everything is
cool from a Linuxer's point of view, it will give a bad user
experience and just cry for breaking things when updating the OS or
other apps.
You can either try to get the library into Nemo, or include it in your
package or link to it statically. Those few kbytes wasted by this
approach should be no real problem, but worth it, if it improves the
user's experience and happiness with Sailfish devices.
I remember people crying they could not update their N900 because of
some library dependencies. Don't let this happen again.
1337 Linux h4x0rz in need of obscure libs and stuff will always find a
workaround to fulfill their needs, e.g. with 3rd party repositories.
:)
Keep in mind that Sailfish wants to be attractive to regular users and
user experience should be highly valued.
My 2 cents,
Martin
郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe)
http://guoyunhe.me/
在 2013-11-7 上午12:13，"Marcin M." <marmistrz...@gmail.com>写道：
It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a
modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an
in-app-purchase
system, it wouldn't be so bad :)
--
Marcin
2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan <mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com>
I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.
An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have
their
own applications, libraries and tools there.
Just my 0.02
Cheers,
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
Hi,
Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
Regards,
--
Marcin
2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto <[1]jonni.raini...@jolla.com>
Hi,
AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you
cannot depend on store packages.
re, Jonni
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[[3]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
[[4]marmistrz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
To: Sailfish OS Developers
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
databases depend on the free app)
--
Marcin
2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov <[5]coderusin...@gmail.com>
Good point, thanks!
On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain
the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side
(after that you can depend against it).
re, Jonni
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From: [6]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[7]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto
[[8]jonni.raini...@jolla.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Sailfish OS Developers
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
HI,
AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
field.
re, Jonni
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From: [9]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[[10]devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
To: [12]devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
Please more information about Harbour:
- it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
libraries,
required as depends for my appliction?
- does it acts as repository?
On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
Ahoy all,
Today we're launching Jolla Harbour <[13]harbour.jolla.com>, the
portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
started. To manage your account details, please visit
[15]account.jolla.com.
Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
Harbour. The submission process is the same.
Start with free applications:
At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we
will keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
Binary package naming:
You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary
package to Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning
at [16]http://semver.org.
Preparing your metadata:
Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
- An app icon for the Store (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
- 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
- An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or
jpg)
Submission process:
To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata
for it and upload the binary and required images. After you have
submitted your app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
Quality Assurance testing:
Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a
few days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email
address you have registered to your Jolla account.
If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
[17]developer-c...@jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish
developers mailing list at devel at [18]lists.sailfishos.org.
Happy hacking!
The Jolla Store Team
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References
1. mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com
2. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
3. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
4. mailto:marmistrz...@gmail.com
5. mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com
6. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
7. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
8. mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com
9. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
10. mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
11. mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com
12. mailto:devel@lists.sailfishos.org
13. http://harbour.jolla.com/
14. http://harbour.jolla.com/
15. http://account.jolla.com/
16. http://semver.org/
17. mailto:developer-c...@jolla.com
18. http://lists.sailfishos.org/
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