Might I suggest “defamatory” as a superset of “discriminatory”? adjective 1. (of remarks, writing, etc.) damaging the good reputation of someone; slanderous or libelous. "a defamatory allegation" synonyms:
libelous, slanderous, defaming, calumnious, calumniatory, vilifying, traducing, scandalous, scandalmongering, malicious, vicious, backbiting, muckraking, abusive, maledictory, maledictive; disparaging, denigratory, detracting, derogatory, censorious, critical; insulting, slurring, injurious; informalmudslinging, bitchy, catty; archaiccontumelious "there were defamatory statements in the book" Warm Regards, OLW From: Matthew Ahrens <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:36 PM To: Discuss <[email protected]> Cc: developer <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: OpenZFS Code of Conduct Martin, thanks for your feedback. I appreciate your specific suggestions of how to reword the section about "discriminatory jokes". A few more specific replies below: On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:31 AM Marcin Szychowski <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Third - what made me sit and write this pathetic letter, and what explains my self introduction - is a word I found in the Code. The word is: jokes. Now: good joke is the one that makes laugh everyone involved. But banning jokes upfront altogether is inherently wrong! I know it, because I've been there - in a country, that nothing could have been published or publicly presented (including live performances) without prior approval from the censorship office of People Republic of Poland. Since then I am allergic to any efforts trying to ban *jokes*. One would say: "Hey, CoC mentions only discriminatory jokes, not all!". "That's right. It names those jokes *now*. But wait for it." It sounds like one of your concerns is that a small change to the document (the removal of "discriminatory") could have a large change in what communication styles are welcome. I think that's a fair concern, and we can address this specific example by rewording it along the lines of your suggestions. That said, to address the general concern, we do have a community review process for any changes to the Code of Conduct going forward, detailed here: http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/Working_Group_and_Code_of_Conduct_Mechanics#Revision_Policy_.2F_Process<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-zfs.org%2Fwiki%2FWorking_Group_and_Code_of_Conduct_Mechanics%23Revision_Policy_.2F_Process&data=02%7C01%7Cowen.wieck%40ricardo.com%7Ce06fa902646e4957784e08d6c8231518%7C0b6675bca0cc4acf954f092a57ea13ea%7C0%7C1%7C636916450341113781&sdata=oTIyq6B8ISYmOb5PGSfW1ieqqv27Fy6sJVwwmJvlNDA%3D&reserved=0> So there goes my proposal - can we transform this part towards something saying rather: "Words can hurt. Please make sure your words won't hurt anyone, even if you have been hurt by somebody", or "Jokes make laugh everyone involved. When joking, make sure what you intend to say is a joke, not an insult towards anyone. Best jokes we make from ourselves". Thanks for the specific suggestions! 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