On 2019-04-23 11:19 p.m., Joshua M. Clulow wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 17:19, Richard Yao <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/22/19 4:13 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote:
The proposed code of conduct is available here:
http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct_Summary
The following sentence is overly broad:

"In addition, conduct outside these spaces may affect a person's ability
to participate within them."

It would be better if it said:

"In addition, conduct in professional settings outside these spaces may
affect a person's ability to participate within them."

The way that it is presently worded risks creating different
interpretations of what the scope of the CoC is. That could cause the
project to be asked to police situations where the CoC is out of scope.
Saying that a situation is out of scope in such situations would invite
accusations of selective enforcement, which we don't need.

I think it's tempting to try and treat a document like this as an
algorithm, but it's really not.  Inserting "professional settings" in
this sentence merely invites people to quibble about what constitutes
a professional setting. My home is not a professional setting, and nor
is a public library or a bar; if I was being harassed in any of those
places by a member of the community it would be no comfort that it had
occurred outside of a workplace.

People should feel confident that issues they report will be heard,
not dismissed on a technicality.

If we later find that this change made the CoC too narrow, then we can
always revise it to address the situation in an environment that is
amicable. Wording the CoC in a way that we later find that it was too
broad might not give us quite as amicable an environment for revision.

I think the document is quite good as it is.  The team of people
responsible for fielding reports are responsible folk, and they've
outlined a process for amending the language later if needed.

Reports under a code of conduct are always delicate matters.  I think
keeping the language broad -- and uncomplicated! -- allows the team to
exercise their discretion as they seek to treat people fairly, while
preserving the safety and privacy of community members.


Cheers.


Yes, any matter brought before the code-of-conduct committee is going to boil down to the community trusting in those on the conduct committee. We need to give them as as broad a mandate as possible to do the right thing, and trust in them to do that.


--
Allan Jude

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