> On Apr 24, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Matthew Ahrens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 5:17 PM Richard Yao <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The following sentence is overly broad:
>> 
>> "In addition, conduct outside these spaces may affect a person's ability
>> to participate within them."
> 
> Richard, thanks for your input and for suggesting a specific change.  Here is 
> our reasoning behind this sentence:
> 
> Harmful behavior has an impact regardless of the venue, and especially if the 
> behavior is in public.  For example, if someone is harassing a community 
> member on social media, that creates a problem for the community because the 
> target of harassment is (quite reasonably) deterred from participating in the 
> OpenZFS community if their harasser is a member of our community.  Another 
> example would be if someone makes discriminatory or threatening statements 
> against groups of people (women, minorities, etc).  This creates a problem 
> for the community because people won’t feel comfortable or safe interacting 
> with someone who behaves this way.  If these type of problems arise, we 
> intend to address them, which is why we wrote this sentence in the Code of 
> Conduct.  As with any conduct issues, the way that these problems are 
> addressed will depend on the particulars.  For example, we would hope that 
> informing someone that their behavior is harming others would be sufficient 
> to prevent the incident from repeating.
Is an omission from the CoC going to prevent us from taking action in a 
situation where we clearly should take action? If not, then it should be fine 
to keep the CoC’s scope more narrow until we have gained experience with it.

I would like to hope for the best, but in the back of my mind, I have the 
question of “how could things possibly go wrong?” and the idea that the CoC 
might somehow backfire on us occurred to me. This is the reason why I would 
rather that we gain experience with a more narrowly scoped initial CoC that has 
limited ambiguity in what it promises that we will do.

By the way, given how much work and private lives mix these days, I would 
consider twitter to be a professional forum. It is certainly that way how some 
people use it.
> 
> --matt
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