-original message- Subject: Re: [mySociety:public] Ernest Marples postcode database taken down From: Francis Davey <[email protected]> Date: 07/10/2009 9:35 pm
Yes, there is no such thing as "intellectual copyright". I think they mean "intellectual property". Francis It's like copyright, but with coffee, red wine and French women, right? 2009/10/7 paul perrin <[email protected]>: > I have a reply... (see below) (not sure what 'intellectual copyright' > means...). > I am happy to not have a post code, but other members of my family may not > be... So needs a bit of consideration... I'm going to ask what the > 'consideration' consists of... > Paul /)/+) > --- > Dear Paul > > The postcode was devised by Royal Mail, for Royal Mail's use. We own the > intellectual copyright to all postcodes, therefore we are entitled to sell > this information as we see fit. > > If we remove your property from the Postal Address File (PAF) this could > impact postal deliveries (not just from Royal Mail but other couriers > also). In addition to this because financial institutions such as banks, > credit reference agencies and insurance companies etc drawn their > information from PAF this could also impact your ability to obtain certain > goods and services. > > Under the Universal Service Obligation if we receive a piece of mail we > MUST deliver it to the address stated on the envelope unless we are > physically unable to. > > If you still wish to remove your property from PAF please send your address > to us for consideration of removal. > > 2009/10/6 paul perrin <[email protected]> >> >> Just sent the following ot the post office. >> Hi I object to royal mail making a profit from my post code. So I would >> like information on boycotting all royal mail services - including >> letter/parcel delivery to a specific person at a specific address. Also, how >> would I go about having my property removed from the PAF. >> >> So I'll shut up for now :-) >> Paul /)/+) >> >> 2009/10/6 paul perrin <[email protected]> >>> >>> Your view is utopian - if postcodes were to be freed then it would almost >>> certainly have happened by now... wishing it were different doesn't cause >>> change. >>> If there were new codes and if royal mail decide not to recognise them, >>> then you could use an alternative delivery service that does... >>> Paul /)/+) >>> 2009/10/6 Paul Waring <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> paul perrin wrote: >>>> > For some time I have thought that the public should boycott post >>>> > codes... develop an open source alternative and use that... >>>> >>>> How can you boycott postcodes? If you don't put postcodes on your mail >>>> there's an increased chance that it will be delayed or lost in the >>>> sorting offices of the Royal Mail. >>>> >>>> > Couldn't postcodes be extracted from a public source via an freedom of >>>> > information request? >>>> >>>> How would that help? It's not a problem of getting at the data (you >>>> could just buy a copy of the PAF from the Royal Mail if you really >>>> wanted to), it's being able to use it. Just because you get some >>>> information via FoI, it doesn't mean that you can use it however you >>>> want. >>>> >>>> > It can't be difficult - and if the switch over make is difficult for >>>> > the >>>> > authorities, that is their look out... should have listened earlier. >>>> >>>> If the switch over is made difficult for the authorities then they >>>> simple won't bother doing it. As Royal Mail probably sorts and delivers >>>> the majority of your mail I think they have the upper hand in enforcing >>>> a system for identifying addresses. :) >>>> >>>> Besides, there is nothing fundamentally wrong with postcodes as a >>>> concept, the only issue is that the data (more specifically the mapping >>>> from a location to a postcode and back again) is not freely available >>>> for anyone to use. It would be much better to see the data made >>>> available rather than invent an entirely new and unsupported system to >>>> do the same thing. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Paul Waring >>>> http://www.pwaring.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list [email protected] >>>> Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: >>>> >>>> https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > -- Francis Davey _______________________________________________ Mailing list [email protected] Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public _______________________________________________ Mailing list [email protected] Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public
