On 24 October 2011 18:25, John Handelaar <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 24 October 2011 19:07, Francis Davey <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think Ernest Marples makes it fairly clear: > > > > http://pdcconsult.ernestmarples.com/ > > > > In short: the consultation looks very strongly geared to a model of > > the PDC where all the data we want remains behind paywalls, but that > > some chewed up offering is made available via the PDC. > > [snip] > > > On a mySociety list I shouldn't have to explain why raw data behind a > > paywall is a bad thing. > > Indeed not. > > [Chris's mail appeared at this point] > > On 24 October 2011 19:13, Chris Taggart <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is the problem that you've seen lots of arguments, or that you haven't > seen > > an elevator-pitch type one that sums it up in a single sentence? > > The problem is [citation needed]. All right-thinking people agree that > locking up data behind paywalls is a good idea. > > But I'm seeing arguments that tell me that the PDC is designed to > close up datasets we already have access to. *Where does it say that?* > I've looked. I can't find it anywhere. > The arguments (at least the ones I've seen) don't say that it is *designed* to close up existing open datasets. They do say however that it will set an example, a locus, and a mechanism for those in govt (central & local) who don't wish to open up their data, and who aren't currently part of the shareholder executive, and we're already hearing mumblings of this happening. > > I'm also told that the consultation is set up to lean responders > towards a not-preferred option. What *is* the preferred option within > the confines of this consultation, all of whose options are phrased in > the most vague terms possible? > > Given that the consultation excludes governance (see my post about this), and that this and the principles under which it operates will be the most important things about the PDC, I shall be responding about this rather than the questions asked. You, of course, should read the consultation, think through the likely consequences, and make up your own mind. Chris -- ------------------------------------------------------- OpenCorporates :: The Open Database of the Corporate World http://opencorporates.com OpenlyLocal :: Making Local Government More Transparent http://openlylocal.com Blog: http://countculture.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/CountCulture
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