Joseph; Since you sent this message to both myself and the list, I am commenting here on the list.
Actually I am NOT complaning...another person I respect here was. I am validating his feelings however as I hope to explain in a manner I trust will meet with your approval and standards for "...adult observation". Please re-read my comments and Dan's reply to them. Sorry if you don't get it, but I was neither complaning or disagreeing with the notion that this was a financial based decision. I was just *amused* at the fact it is ALSO a policy decision. And between the two it can easily be said that those policies that are of lesser importance are susceptible to financial presure, more so than those policy decisions of greater import. Indeed some policy decisions are not subject to financial pressures at all in some companies. And some policies are at the very core of why or how a company does business and become immutable for that company. Mr. Brown's original comments were specifically aimed at all the hubris surrounding a feature that didn't warrant their attention or further resources in the "cold hard light" of MITEL's financial imperatives. Which means it never warranted the *hubris* it was given. I was not surprised at this, considering other MITEL decisions over the past years. I said as much. However I support their right to act as they choose fit, in fact I would fight for their right to do so. However I also support this community here to point out how they feel as Mr. Brown did. And I would fight to support their right to say so, and in this case I DID exactly that. Enough now. I will not reply further as I do not like rewarding poor behavior with a comment. If my kids engage in name calling or similar behavior they are NOT rewarded. Bob Finch On Thursday 16 January 2003 08:02 pm, Joseph Armstrong wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "w9ya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Blades interface (Was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] > Announcing SME Server V5.6 developer release) > > > I've been following this list for quite some time and I feel compelled to > comment on some of the appalling attitudes that I see developing of late. > > Firstly, keep in mind what GPL is and is not. > Second, remember that people need to eat. > Third, remember that under the terms of (1) above, you get quite a bit of > somebody else's work gratis. > > >I read this to essentially mean ".....if Mitel can't make money off of it, > >then you cannot use it.." > > That a person/s chooses to give something away at no charge with no support > means that the GPL is observed, that you have a secure and functional > product and you have paid nothing for it. > > Since these people need to eat in the meantime, it is not unreasonable to > adopt a position of paid support. > Within my field, I do things for my friends and family for nothing but they > get it when I can afford the time since I too, have a necessity to keep my > worms at bay. If their need is great, I will often sacrifice my sleep time > to help out but if their need is greater then they have no qualms in paying > for my time IF THEY WANT IT NOW. None of us think this is unreasonable. > > > Gee, what a surprise to some, perhaps not such a surprise to others. > > This seems more like an infantile retort than an adult observation. > > > I *DO* really think it is sad to pretend that this is a matter of > > "...visions" > > > vs. "hard reality" when a decision to allow blades to accept/work > > with/utilize items from un-authorize sources is a coding decision as is > > the > > > reverse. > > Visionaries need to eat too. > > I presume you have a field of speciality and that might have friends who > have vague familiarity with your work but you would not allow to assist you > unsupervised. > > > Or MAYBE I am too dense to understand this. > > You may be right. > > I suggest that you (and others) think about more before you complain. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Searchable archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
