On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Cusick wrote:

> Were you about to make a comment, or was this a subtle comment on the
> excessive top-posting and lack of cleaning up previous messages?
> 
> :-)

Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and 
I hit the wrong button.

Back to the topic:

As to what is allowed and not allowed, I would re-iterate that people 
should read the licenses which they are given, and if in doubt, consult a 
lawyer.

As to the distribution in question, one would need to examine the software 
in more detail to verify compliance with the GPL. 

As you can see here:

http://youresale.com/products/yes_license_agreement.php

they 1) inform their customers that the GPL applies to some included
software components and 2) assert licensing restrictions which are
incompatible with the GPL on the product as a whole.

IANAL, so I won't comment on the legality of their operation (Mitel's
lawters can ponder that question). 

As a free software developer, I can say that their operation does not
comply with the spirit of free software development - they are attempting
to limit distribution of the software to "genuine MaPs (Mom and Pop
Store)", and they are sharing none of their own developments/modifications
with you and me.

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Phone: +1 (613) 592 5660 or 592 2122  Fax: +1 (613) 592 1175

A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right.
Q: Why should i start my reply below the quoted text?


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