It has indeed been proposed before. It is called "ZIP manifests", or
something to do with JAR files, etc. It is a good idea but nobody is
implementing it at the moment. Personally I am working on NIO right now.


On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 03:13:10PM +0200, Kjell Rune Skaaraas wrote:
> This probably belongs in the tech section, but
> whatever. One thing I've found inherently annoying
> about Freesites is how they work only partially, and
> navigation is so slow. Suddenly you can get a DNF in
> the middle of a site.
> 
> Is it possible, or are there any current plans, to be
> able to "group" content together on Freenet, so that
> if you are looking at a SSK site with index.html and
> page01, page02, page03.html etc, they are in fact only
> one "big" CHK file with an internal mapping? This
> would make navigation instant once you have loaded the
> site, and any DNFs would be a "all or none"-basis. 
> 
> The downside is of course that you would have to load
> the entire container before looking at it, but with
> Freenets latency to bandwidth (horrible latency,
> decent bandwidth) I think it would be superior to the
> current solution. Today most sites prefer to throw
> everything together on huge monolithic pages, and the
> size of even a small set of HTML pages is not big
> compared to the other file transfers going on. The
> space savings by sharing unchanged html pages between
> edition sites is minimal.
> 
> A perfect example of why this would be good is an
> image gallery, where you could gather the HTML pages
> in one CHK. That way you could have 10 pages with 30
> pics each, where the index pages would load instantly
> (the pics would be as slow as now though), instead of
> either one 300 pic page (disaster) or a site that is
> slow and frustrating to navigate. 
> 
> This should not require any change to the intra-node
> structure, as other nodes would see just a normal CHK
> transfer. Either the node itself or Fproxy would have
> to be upgraded to parse and display the correct item
> in the CHK file, but that should be fairly simple. In
> order to leave the FCP spec alone, making Fproxy do it
> is probably the best idea.
> 
> Of course, it doesn't have to be just HTML, it could
> be completely arbitrary containers. But for most other
> stuff compression tools (zip, rar) & FEC-splitfiles do
> a good job already.
> 
> Anyone feel this is a good idea? I looked through the
> achives back to January, and didn't see any subjects
> about such a scheme. I think it sounds very good at
> least.
> 
> P.S. We'd sure better remember to run anonymity filter
> on everything in the container. 
> 
> Kjella
> 
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