Google has anti-spam. However, when someone uninstalls freenet (or ANY other program), the last thing he thinks about is taking any surveys for that program's developers. You should probably think about those who are actually using freenet, since they usually are reallyinterested in improvements. And mailing list is not the most comfortable way to post feature requests etc. Probably, we should fill some time-consuming points of freenet's work cycle, e.g. webpage loading. For example, the client checks some freesite for a survey question every 10 minutes. So when user waits for page to load, he can ask some question devs are interested in. This will no way compromise anonimity, and it will be 100% representative, since a single host can send such report only when it has actually requested one (question is paired with unique answer password, which is checked when the user posts his answer). PS: I don't think that is easy, but I am sure this will be effective when implemented. Game devs have also noted that and post fancy game tips on load screens, and users read them very carefully.
On 8/7/09, Zero3 <ze...@zerosplayground.dk> wrote: > Evan Daniel skrev: >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Zero3<ze...@zerosplayground.dk> wrote: >>> Evan Daniel skrev: >>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Zero3<ze...@zerosplayground.dk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> True, I agree. IMHO it is a fair way to do it as in the Windows >>>>> installer: Ask the user kindly, and if he doesn't want to, we shouldn't >>>>> force him. Since most of our survey results have disappeared since we >>>>> started asking, I take that as a hint that people don't *want to* >>>>> answer >>>>> the surveys - hence I don't think we should try to force them. >>>> I read this differently. If you present the user with "click here to >>>> take our survey" they won't. If you instead present them with "here's >>>> our survey; answer the questions and click here to submit, or here to >>>> not take the survey" you'll get a lot more responses. It's not that >>>> users don't want to take the survey; it's that laziness wins, and if >>>> you stick an extra click in the way you lose most of them. >>> Hmm. You are probably right. The big problem, however, is still that the >>> survey is located on the website... And that we have to launch a web >>> browser >>> to display it. >>> >>> A better (and secure) alternative would be to ask the questions in the >>> uninstaller GUI and publish it to Freenet before uninstalling. But that >>> would require quite some work... >> >> If by "some work" you mean "solving the general spam resistance >> problem in a way that doesn't involve asking the user to solve >> captchas because we have good data to suggest he really doesn't care." > > The uninstallation survey is just as spamable right now without a > CAPTCHA or the like :). Unless of course Google has some fancy anti-spam > measures in place. > > - Zero3 > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
