On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Ximin Luo <xl...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Evan Daniel wrote:
>> For some time, I've been advocating for increased use of the wiki.
>> However, the current wiki has a variety of problems.  We should move
>> to Mediawiki (or possibly something else, if there is a compelling
>> reason).
>
> Who has the keys to the wiki server? I can set up MediaWiki in a few hours,
> less if it's running Debian. I totally agree with switching the wiki. The
> current software is a piece of shit. MediaWiki has its problems but IMO it's
> the best option right now for a production server.

AIUI, one of the goals is to move away from the current server.  That
means solving the hosting problem as well.  There's also the migration
issue.

Sourceforge offers Mediawiki hosting; I don't know of any reason not to do it.

>
>> Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one who cares about the wiki.
>> Every time it comes up, the discussion seems to arrive at "yes, we
>> really should decide on something and do it" and then die.
>>
>> The current wiki has a mild spam problem.  I seem to be the only one
>> left trying to do anything about it.  (Among the issues with the
>> current wiki is that this is more work than it should be.)  I'm happy
>> to continue to do this, if it's a temporary thing while work is being
>> done on setting up a new wiki.  However, at this point that seems a
>> rather forlorn hope.  Until that changes, I don't see much point in
>> maintaining the current wiki, trying to improve it, or referring
>> people to it for documentation.
>
> The main issue I think is time. There isn't enough man-hours going into stuff
> like this and we can't expect toad to do everything by himself. It would be
> nice if there were more people stepping up to put some effort into organising
> the project infrastructure. I know it's a bit hypocritical of me to say this
> since I've contributed fuck-all in the past few months, but if anyone has some
> time... help would be nice...

There has been plenty of time spent discussing this before, without
any conclusions.  The problem isn't that a decision was made but not
implemented due to lack of manpower, it's that there was no decision.
I can't really blame people for not volunteering when the first step
appears to be getting a decision from a group that doesn't seem overly
inclined to make one, or even all that concerned about things stalling
for lack of a decision.

Evan Daniel
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