On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:54:10AM -0500, SiliconZealot wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Wooledge" <greg at wooledge.org> > To: <devl at freenetproject.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:36 AM > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Windows Installer > SiliconZealot (siliconzealot at attbi.com) wrote: > > >> Maybe explain where to find what > >> their IP is? How about suggesting they click here: > >> http://www.whatismyip.com/ > > >That will detect their ISP's transparent web proxy. They need to > >run "WINIPCFG" (at least in the DOS-based Windows releases; I don't > >know NT). > > For NT it is CMD then IPCONFIG > > I was thinking along the lines of people with cablemodems with build-in NAT > or people like me with a router between thier cablemodem and computer. But > then we would need to remind them to forward the appropriate ports (assuming > they can figure that out). Oh god, tech support for the clueless masses > here we go... > > How about a window that pops up when they forget to change their IP address > from localhost. Have that window provide a FAQ about setting up a permanent > node, finding their IP and forwarding the appropriate ports??? Remember we > want people to join and STAY on the network, right? =) > > Oskar, Matt- please don't shoot this down needlessly. =) Some sort of way to make finding the IP address easier seems reasonable. But since most users are on dynamic IPs, we need to provide automatic ARKs or dyndns for the untechnical masses... and then there's the issue of whether we want to try to detect whether we have full internet connectivity (i.e. accept connections)... and then there's the eternal uptime issue - most nontechnical people don't run their home computers 24x7. Mostly this is a windoze, UI issue and therefore Mat Ryden's domain :). How technical we assume unix users to be is another question... >
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